Robbies Dad:
Is that not down to a lack of control by drivers?
Or don`t brakes,exhaust brakes or retarders work anymore?
No, it’s not down to a lack of control by drivers. Why shouldn’t they do 60 on overrun when it’s perfectly legal to? Or are you yet another idiot who thinks the speed limit for HGVs is 56?
And no, retarders tend not to work that well. In fact, the only vehicles I’ve driven where a retarder will hold a loaded lorry down windy hill are Volvos.
Connor i think the chip on your shoulder is getting bigger by the minute.
Am i not entitled to an opinion without being branded an idiot.?
I have owned and driven several trucks with a retarder and i am quite sure most of the MORE EXPERIENCED drivers would agree with me that they are without doubt an added advantage over just brakes or an exhaust brake.
Personally i reckon you talking out of your bottom…AGAIN
Driveroneuk:
Now i’ve had a chance to have a look at the print out. this is what it says:
1st line: >> 4 16.12.2006 10.39
2nd line: ( 1) 00h00
3rd line: o # uk / B601769 0
on the 3rd line the symbols i have used in this example are as follows:
o = steering wheel icon
= a symbol that looks like a 1/2 full fuel tank or a cab door. i.e. 1/2 glass 1/2 solid. Obviously i know there is no connection here, just trying to describe what the symbol looks like.
Now interestingly, there is one of these showing different times for every day from 11.12.06 to 16.12.06. except that on the 14th the symbols are different and/or missing and on the 11th & 12th the “B” number is 601242 and 631201 respectively.
The first day I drove that unit, was also the 1st time my card had ever been in a tacho, was 18.12.06.
The first line shows the ref no. of the event (4=overspeed), date and time of the longest event and underneath in brackets, the number of other overspeed events.
The third line shows the card/driver reference number. the circle is driver, the ‘cab door’ is the card =driver card.
Therefore, the different B numbers are different cards inserted at that time. The unit shows the last 5 occurrences, not necessarily by the same driver.
According to the statute book,which is the law of the land,as laid down by Parliament,the law is still 60mph on a motorway for an LGV.
European law may state that vehicles should not exceed 56mph,but until the 60mph law in this country is repealed,I reckon that if it went to court,it would be thrown out on a technicality.
I too,would challenge it in a court of law,if VOSA tried to do me for obeying ENGLISH law.
AFAIK Over Speeding is only a tacho infringement, as we all know the limit at the moment is 60MPH on motorways. Thanks again to Coner for bringing that to our attention.
Over Speeding
Exceeding the authorised speed of the vehicle, defined as any period of more than 60 seconds during which the vehicle’s measured speed exceeds the limit setting for the speed limitation device laid down in Council Directive 92/6/EEC of 10 February 1992 on the installation and use of speed limitation devices for certain categories of motor vehicles in the Community.
hollywood:
AFAIK Over Speeding is only a tacho infringement
Not even a tacho infringement, there is nothing in the Driver’s Hours Rules regarding speeding or speed limits so there is nothing to infringe.
I think people are reading way to much into this over speed warning. It is nothing more than an advisory that for a period the vehicle exceeded the vehicles limited speed, which in itself is not an offence. This over speed recording is not even a new thing. Since the day speed limiters came into use, tachographs have been recording over speeding. The only difference now is that with a digital tachograph there is no speed trace on a chart to give you that information so you get a ‘helpful’ warning instead. That’s all it is.
all i know is my old boss is getting a lot of grief for people exceeding 60 on their tacho (which will be downhill with a bulker, as noone knows how to fiddle a truck) which leads to the ministry coming round, (and since this i have got one from my new employer for about 70, guess i was not paying attenbtion
you all should try having the VEMiS system fitted to the truck, the whole kit monitors; MPG over speeding over reving ideling (leaving the engine ticking over for too long) Harsh braking and more
theres a smart card which you put into the machine, which is downloaded at the end of the shift by the office
handed at morning printout in for photocopying and got them in peaces back,as Staff is on Christmas Holiday and replacement doesnt accepts anything they dont understand!
As i learned must i keep the Printout undamaged with me for the curent Week and the previus 15 Days,to hand it then to Office in.
The Person means his Copy is enough,as they also have the Data loaded down.
euromat:
all i know is my old boss is getting a lot of grief for people exceeding 60 on their tacho (which will be downhill with a bulker, as noone knows how to fiddle a truck) which leads to the ministry coming round, (and since this i have got one from my new employer for about 70, guess i was not paying attenbtion
a 4X2 Daf like that had i for 6 Years.
Boss didn’t understand that i didn’t take the new Magnum
kindle530:
I remember hearing youre allowed 60mph on a downhill run of motorway as long as it you dont do it for over 1 minute. Limiters should be set to 56mph, not 60 or 100kmh like more and more seem to be
Robbies Dad:
Is that not down to a lack of control by drivers?
Or don`t brakes,exhaust brakes or retarders work anymore?
No, it’s not down to a lack of control by drivers. Why shouldn’t they do 60 on overrun when it’s perfectly legal to? Or are you yet another idiot who thinks the speed limit for HGVs is 56? Because Like it or not you will get a speed infringment regardless of the speed limit
And no, retarders tend not to work that well. In fact, the only vehicles I’ve driven where a retarder will hold a loaded lorry down windy hill are Volvos. Useing the brakes as well tends to slow you down
Connor i think the chip on your shoulder is getting bigger by the minute.
Am i not entitled to an opinion without being branded an idiot.?
Do you want an answer when you can’t even spell my name right when it’s clearly posted?
Robbies Dad:
I have owned and driven several trucks with a retarder and i am quite sure most of the MORE EXPERIENCED drivers would agree with me that they are without doubt an added advantage over just brakes or an exhaust brake.
Personally i reckon you talking out of your bottom…AGAIN
Yes they’re an added advantage but how does this alter the fact that on their own, most are incapable of holding the speed down Windy Hill?
Electro magnetic retarders are very efficient. Don’t know why all trucks aren’t fitted with them as coaches are & have been for many years.
The majority of exhaust brakes are like a dog P’ing in the snow. Though to be fair, they have improved over the years & you do need to have the revs well up towards the red to get efficiency.
anyway, can we steer it back on topic now…overspeeding & digi tach print outs.
Conor:
THE ROAD TRAFFIC ACT SPECIFIES THE SPEED LIMIT FOR VEHICLES OVER 7.5t is SIXTY MPH
It isn’t illegal to exceed the limiter set speed and if someone at your company tells you this, ask them if they’ve read the Highway Code and if they have, could they tell you what the speed limit is for a HGV on a motorway?
Where in the Road Traffic Act does it specify speed limits?
Conor:
THE ROAD TRAFFIC ACT SPECIFIES THE SPEED LIMIT FOR VEHICLES OVER 7.5t is SIXTY MPH
It isn’t illegal to exceed the limiter set speed and if someone at your company tells you this, ask them if they’ve read the Highway Code and if they have, could they tell you what the speed limit is for a HGV on a motorway?
Where in the Road Traffic Act does it specify speed limits?
Part 6, sections 81 to 91 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984. Conor missed one word out but I think we all know what he meant.
continental vechiles are exempt .The rest of british wagons have to obey the e u law 
