"By law drivers digi card must be a true reflection of the hours that are worked daily and cannot be amended retrospectively. This must show actual start and finish time. For example:
A driver on an 18:00 duty finish is allowed to leave the depot to go home at 17:00 by his manager, must show this as the end of his duty. A driver must not show the remaining hour as OWP by making a manual entry the next time his card in inserted".
This instruction has just been issued in our depot. However for the past umpteen years we have been showing the remainng hour as OWP. As this was how we were trained by our in house instructors, this new instruction has upset some of our drivers somewhat. So my question is have we been breaking the law all this time? Our manager has told us we could be in trouble by VOSA.
Sorry it seems complicated, it how my company works.
i assume owp mean other work? but if you had left yard abd gone home why oh why would you want to book the other hour on your card, seems a complete waste of time, and could be illegal as you are not working!!!
prdcb1:
"By law drivers digi card must be a true reflection of the hours that are worked daily and cannot be amended retrospectively. This must show actual start and finish time. For example:
A driver on an 18:00 duty finish is allowed to leave the depot to go home at 17:00 by his manager, must show this as the end of his duty. A driver must not show the remaining hour as OWP by making a manual entry the next time his card in inserted".
This instruction has just been issued in our depot. However for the past umpteen years we have been showing the remainng hour as OWP. As this was how we were trained by our in house instructors, this new instruction has upset some of our drivers somewhat. So my question is have we been breaking the law all this time? Our manager has told us we could be in trouble by VOSA.
Sorry it seems complicated, it how my company works.
I doubt you’ve been breaking any laws and even if you had I can’t see why any authority would be very interested that you’ve booked more work than you’ve done.
If you’d booked less work than you’d done they’d be very interested but I can’t think of any reason why VOSA would object to you going home at say 17:00 and booking off on the tachograph at 18:00.
Booking time as work that you haven’t done could potentially have an affect on your average hours over the reference period so could have consequences for both drivers and management, which is possibly what your manager is thinking of.
The only reason I can think of why any driver would object to booking off at the time they finish work is if they’re on salary and want to keep the booked hours up so they can have some time off on full pay to correct the average working time, sorry but if that’s the reason it probably won’t work
The thing is my company is very good at monitoring our hours over a reference period, plus this instruction only happens in a few depots around the country and is not enforced in other places. This new idea is from a new manager that has taken over in our depot. The company i work for is a national mail company
Our official finish time is 1700, we can leave at 16.30 is the jobs done, were told to book till 1700 as thats our official finishing time.
There is a story behind this at our place,
The old old management wanted to ‘retire a bloke early’, he was good at the job but liked to upset the management, he liked a pint straight after work so the 16.30 escape was brought in, One day he finished at 16.30 and straight round to the pub, 3 pints in at 16.45 management walked in and he was sacked for drinking in work hours
If you knew some of the folk who worked at our place he was prob the most sober bloke there
