Digi tacho help once again?

started work at 0730 am u,t.c [not driving ] started driving at 845am utc drove till 10.45am utc had an hour break [waiting to get a crane ] …

drove from 1300utc til 16.20utc parked truck and went home …

Forgot to take digicard out , returned to work at 21.23utc and removed card

2 questions if anyone can help

a. I don’t think ive drove over my hours , but card was on "other work " when I removed it [have I done owt wrong ?

b. when can I drive again ?

[just passed test , hence questions ]

9 hours off gives you 6.24am.

Do a print out and you’ll be fine… Personally i’d of left the card in then it would of been obvious you’d forgotten to take it out.

never done a printout , was told I didn’t need to , how do I do it ?

duncan bladen:
never done a printout , was told I didn’t need to , how do I do it ?

press the down button
when it says printout drive 1
press OK

but get 2 printouts , keep 1 and give 1 to prat in the office
write on back of printout (left card in)
and sign it
everything will be ok then and you wont get an infringment

duncan bladen:
never done a printout , was told I didn’t need to , how do I do it ?

You only need to do a printout if:

  1. You’ve now had too many reduced daily rest periods.

  2. You’ve now had three reduced daily rest periods and need another one before your next weekly rest period.

  3. you need to start work before 07:23 BST in the morning.

If neither of those situations apply to you there’s no point in doing a printout, you’ve got nothing to gain.

tachograph:

duncan bladen:
never done a printout , was told I didn’t need to , how do I do it ?

You only need to do a printout if:

  1. You’ve now had too many reduced daily rest periods.

  2. You’ve now had three reduced daily rest periods and need another one before your next weekly rest period.

  3. you need to start work before 07:23 BST in the morning.

If neither of those situations apply to you there’s no point in doing a printout, you’ve got nothing to gain.

I take your point in that the OP would not have breached any Drivers Hours Regs, however, he has failed to keep an accurate record. Vose ‘advise’ as follows - “If for any reason the tachograph does not make an accurate record of activities (e.g. if the driver inadvertently makes an incorrect manual entry in a digital tachograph, or fails to correctly operate the
mode button or switch), it is strongly recommended that the driver makes a manual tachograph record to this effect.”

iDriver:
I take your point in that the OP would not have breached any Drivers Hours Regs, however, he has failed to keep an accurate record. Vose ‘advise’ as follows - “If for any reason the tachograph does not make an accurate record of activities (e.g. if the driver inadvertently makes an incorrect manual entry in a digital tachograph, or fails to correctly operate the
mode button or switch), it is strongly recommended that the driver makes a manual tachograph record to this effect.”

Sorry but I can’t agree with your interpretation of VOSAs advise :wink:

You’ll find the advise you’ve quoted is intended for when incorrect use of the tachograph mode switch would result in none compliance of the regulations.

In the OPs situation ( barring the three reasons I listed and the one I’ve only just thought of at the bottom of this post :blush: ) there would be no infraction of the regulations.

If a driver wishes to record part of a rest/break period as other work there’s no reason why he shouldn’t, doing it the other way round and recording a work period as rest would certainly be of interest to VOSA if they knew about it.

Having said that, I have just thought of a fourth reason why the OP may want to do a printout, and that is if leaving his card on other work is likely to get him an infringement for working over 6 hours without a break.
From what’s been posted there’s no way of knowing for sure if leaving the card in will put his working time over 6 hours since the last break, but as only one break has been mentioned (10:45 to 11:45) it is a possibility.

By that interpretation there is no reason to keep records, accurate or otherwise unless you are infringing a regulation. An interesting point of view that you are entitled to hold. I shall continue to keep my records accurately and make a note of why if they are inaccurate for any reason, infringement or not.

I’d take the double printout as by acknowledging the mistake before your company infringement process picks up the WTD infringement you also show intent to stay legal.

I’ve had a couple in the past 6 weeks where I’ve managed to select the wrong mode, galloping stomach issues, did the printout as soon as I noticed and while the infringement process still picked up my mistake there was a note giving the explanation already attached on the infringement sheet.