None of them are wrong as such it’s just the way they’re programmed, digital tachographs can be programmed to default to any mode except driving when the ignition is switched off.
The default setting for when the ignition is switched off can be changed at a tachograph centre and as Denis F said the latest Stoneridge digital tachographs can be changed without a visit to the tachograph centre.
Can siemens tacho’s be easily altered like the stoneridge tacho’s then ?
tachograph:
and as Denis F said the latest Stoneridge digital tachographs can be changed without a visit to the tachograph centre.
But you need to prise the Company Card out of the hands of whoever has one 
We’ve got a selection of the whole lot at work. Digis that have been installed at all sorts of different times and they all do different things. The default mode when switching OFF the ignition could be: No Change - Break/Rest - Other Work - POA. Same range of options for the default mode when switching ON the ignition. Most of them are Stoneridge ones, so they really ought to just get out of the office and make them do all the same thing. (IMO - No Change since they want us to turn the engines off all the time, it’s a hell of a lot of button pressing to keep the tacho head recording what is actually being done)
bonnie lass:
Can siemens tacho’s be easily altered like the stoneridge tacho’s then ?
I think that is a Workshop Card job.
Juddian:
half way through your break slip the ignition on to open/close a window and the sod went straight to other work immediately cancelling out break.
scanny77:
At lunchtime it was roasting so i turned the ignition on to open a window and looked up. 9.02 crossed hammers
What you do is press the button to quickly change the mode back to break 
(Even on the pre “one-minute” tachos, the ignition activated mode change would usually flash the new mode symbol about three times and if changed within that space wouldn’t immediately kick in.)
These “one-minute” tachos are great for moving up queues / driving off bays to close doors, as long as there is a calendar minute of break before the move, and the driving in the next calendar minute is 29 seconds or less and it immediately put back on break then it should carry on recording the break where it left off. (With the old ones you had to crawl so slow to avoid activating the drive mode with too many speed pulses 
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bonnie lass:
Can siemens tacho’s be easily altered like the stoneridge tacho’s then ?
A Siemens tachograph has to go to a tachograph workshop to have the default setting changed.
I told them in workshop, & they said it was the way Daf vehicles worked ! 
bonnie lass:
I told them in workshop, & they said it was the way Daf vehicles worked !
They’re talking nonsense, the default setting can be changed on any vehicle.
Having said that it’s not that hard to get used to whatever the default setting is, the worst part is where a fleet of vehicles is has mixed settings and drivers change vehicles daily, you have to remember to check each vehicle which can be a bit of a pain.
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bonnie lass:
I told them in workshop & they said it was the way Daf vehicles worked !
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They’re talking nohasn’t saidhe default setting can be cha. nged on any vehicle.Having said that it’s not that hard to get used to whatever the default setting is, the worst partopeninge a fleet of vehicles is has med settings and drivers change vehicles daily, you have to remember to check each vehicle which can be a bit of a pain.
I rekon they just can’t be bothered to change the settings in workshop.
It can be a bit of a nightmare getting used to the default settings if you change vehicles often, i carry a torch always & check it hasn’t altered mode when I turn the ignition off, but it is a real menace when you are flat out working & repeatedly stopping , running, in & out the cab to move along a bit, opening & closing windows. Quite frustrating , & quite a relief when you get a ‘normal’ tacho .
Sorry, I have just noticed the quotes haven’t come out properly, & some of the wording isn’t reading correctly either, I don’t know why but I think my phone is having problems with the posting.
scanny77:
Juddian:
Drove a whole fleet (not at the same time silly) of Axors that had been wired up to default to other work, a right pain in the arse, half way through your break slip the ignition on to open/close a window and the sod went straight to other work immediately cancelling out break.Best of it was i collected lots of them from the dealer over several weeks, soon as i noticed the problem i raised it, blank looks at the dealer, and as is the case with the large logisticski operator not one of the petty manager types could be bothered to pick the phone up and get it sorted.
Don’t worry about it mate, at least you’ll not be cutting short your breaks, its their lorry if they can’t be arsed to fix it carry on regardless.
we have them too. 14 plate axors. I did a night out a few weeks ago, no 15s left so 11 hours off. At lunchtime it was roasting so i turned the ignition on to open a window and looked up. 9.02 crossed hammers
i left it for the full 11 then 5 minutes bed. Printout showing rest at either end of my 11 off and a manual entry. Last week i got the ticking off for 4 infringements
I eject my tacho every night, it does 2 things, stops things like that happening and also sets the end / start country.
bonnie lass:
tachograph:
bonnie lass:
I told them in workshop & they said it was the way Daf vehicles worked !They’re talking nonsense, the default setting can be changed on any vehicle.
Having said that it’s not that hard to get used to whatever the default setting is, the worst part is where a fleet of vehicles is has mixed settings and drivers change vehicles daily, you have to remember to check each vehicle which can be a bit of a pain.
I rekon they just can’t be bothered to change the settings in workshop.
It can be a bit of a nightmare getting used to the default settings if you change vehicles often, i carry a torch always & check it hasn’t altered mode when I turn the ignition off, but it is a real menace when you are flat out working & repeatedly stopping , running, in & out the cab to move along a bit, opening & closing windows. Quite frustrating , & quite a relief when you get a ‘normal’ tacho .Sorry, I have just noticed the quotes haven’t come out properly, & some of the wording isn’t reading correctly either, I don’t know why but I think my phone is having problems with the posting.
why would the workshop need to change it?
just because you don’t like it?
it is not a fault on the tacho head, as said before, it is down to the driver to set the correct mode, not the truck
if you think that it is a bit of a nightmare having to remember to check what mode you are on at any given time, you really should think about a career change
oh, and it is a ‘normal’ tacho
hope this helps 
(but, it probably doesn’t)
I hate it.
You’re parked to load/unload put on hammers, jump out and someone asks you to move couple of inches and you forget to put on hammers again and here you are, it resets driving time. Aaargh. Instead of 30 mins now you have to sit 45.
But… As said before. With Stonerige you can pull out of bay or whatever engine off and You’re still on the break! 
shuttlespanker:
it is down to the driver to set the correct mode, not the truck
And exactly what is happening is that the truck is changing the mode not the driver? AFAIK the only Mode the unit should record automatically is “drive”. The “Default” has to be whatever the driver has left it on.
Nobody blamed the French yet?
shuttlespanker:
bonnie lass":
tachograph:
[qselected mode , no ie lass"]I told them in workshop & they said it was the way Daf vehicles worked !They’re talking nonsense, the default setting can be changed on any vehicle.
Having said that it’s not that hard to get used to whatever the default setting is, the worst part is where a fleet of vehicles is has mixed settings and drivers change vehicles daily, you have to remember to check each vehicle which can be a bit of a pain.
I rekon they just can’t be bothered to change the settings in workshop.
It can be a bit of a nightmare getting used to the default settings if you change vehicles often, i carry a torch always & check it hasn’t altered mode when I turn the ignition off, but it is a real menace when you are flat out working & repeatedly stopping , running, in & out the cab to move along a bit, opening & closing windows. Quite frustrating , & quite a relief when you get a ‘normal’ tacho .Sorry, I have just noticed the quotes haven’t come out properly, & some of the wording isn’t reading correctly either, I don’t know why but I think my phone is having problems with the posting.
why would the workshop need to change it?
just because you don’t like it?
it is not a fault on the tacho head, as said before, it is down to the driver to set the correct mode, not the truck
if you think that it is a bit of a nightmare having to remember to check what mode you are on at any given time, you really should think about a career change
oh, and it is a ‘normal’ tacho
hope this helps
(but, it probably doesn’t)
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Your right it doesn’t help! !!!
If I set the tacho on other work or poa, I expect it stay on that selected mode , not to switch itself to whatever as soon as the key is turned off.
And why should I want a career change?
Take it into a tacho centre,get all the work done on it recorded,then theres no kick back if you try to do it yourself and make a mistake, you can`t be accused of tampering with it
