Hello,
First time posting on here so here it go’s, Just passed my class c and got my digi card, I’ve been offered work through a agency doing multi-drop work but I’m not sure what to do with tacho setting when doing a delivery that is only ten minutes long and then going on to a new one to only stop again for a delivery, any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Dal U:
Hello,First time posting on here so here it go’s, Just passed my class c and got my digi card, I’ve been offered work through a agency doing multi-drop work but I’m not sure what to do with tacho setting when doing a delivery that is only ten minutes long and then going on to a new one to only stop again for a delivery, any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Have you taken your DCPC modules? You should have learnt how to use a tacho for your test/DCPC.
You leave it on other work. The tacho will automatically change to driving when you’re on the move and return to other work when you stop.
Unfortunately the initial CPC route isn’t helpful in that respect as there’s very little info on tachos apart from driver hours and a little bit on dual manning to pass CPC mod 1 and 2. Bit of a backwards step really not having to do the 35 hours initially (one I wished I’d done), but suppose that’s “progress” according to the DVSA. Even reading the official guide provided by them, I can’t find anything about how tacho’s work.
trevHCS:
Unfortunately the initial CPC route isn’t helpful in that respect as there’s very little info on tachos apart from driver hours and a little bit on dual manning to pass CPC mod 1 and 2. Bit of a backwards step really not having to do the 35 hours initially (one I wished I’d done), but suppose that’s “progress” according to the DVSA. Even reading the official guide provided by them, I can’t find anything about how tacho’s work.
Valid point. As an ‘acquired rights’ driver, I had the option of test, or 35 hrs of death by powerpoint. I chose the test, as I thought it would be more informative. It’s rather hit and miss really. Mod 2 (theory) was pretty much a broad learning experience covering everything from application of common sense, loading, driving, hours and tacho etc…Mod 4 practical test was fundamentally geared towards daily checks; and searching for illegals/contraband (although it can be dependant on the whims of your assessor).
Anyhow, whilst no test can fully prepare you for the ‘real world’, I was left a little surprised that it wasn’t a little more broad.
That said, I could have sat the 35 hrs, slept through most of it, and still gained a DQC with no test, and no real knowledge. Funny old world.
Dal U:
Hello,First time posting on here so here it go’s, Just passed my class c and got my digi card, I’ve been offered work through a agency doing multi-drop work but I’m not sure what to do with tacho setting when doing a delivery that is only ten minutes long and then going on to a new one to only stop again for a delivery, any help would be appreciated.
When the vehicle is moving the tachograph will automatically record driving the when vehicle stops moving the tachograph will automatically change to other work.
You’ll need to watch what the tachograph changes to when you turn off the ignition though, some change to rest when the ignition is switched off so if you’re working you’ll need to change it back to other work.
el_presidente:
trevHCS:
Unfortunately the initial CPC route isn’t helpful in that respect as there’s very little info on tachos apart from driver hours and a little bit on dual manning to pass CPC mod 1 and 2. Bit of a backwards step really not having to do the 35 hours initially (one I wished I’d done), but suppose that’s “progress” according to the DVSA. Even reading the official guide provided by them, I can’t find anything about how tacho’s work.Valid point. As an ‘acquired rights’ driver, I had the option of test, or 35 hrs of death by powerpoint. I chose the test, as I thought it would be more informative. It’s rather hit and miss really. Mod 2 (theory) was pretty much a broad learning experience covering everything from application of common sense, loading, driving, hours and tacho etc…Mod 4 practical test was fundamentally geared towards daily checks; and searching for illegals/contraband (although it can be dependant on the whims of your assessor).
Anyhow, whilst no test can fully prepare you for the ‘real world’, I was left a little surprised that it wasn’t a little more broad.
That said, I could have sat the 35 hrs, slept through most of it, and still gained a DQC with no test, and no real knowledge. Funny old world.
Hi el_presidente. I’m hoping to find myself in the same position as you soon. What kind of cost did module 2 and 4 cost you?
Spooky558:
el_presidente:
trevHCS:
Unfortunately the initial CPC route isn’t helpful in that respect as there’s very little info on tachos apart from driver hours and a little bit on dual manning to pass CPC mod 1 and 2. Bit of a backwards step really not having to do the 35 hours initially (one I wished I’d done), but suppose that’s “progress” according to the DVSA. Even reading the official guide provided by them, I can’t find anything about how tacho’s work.Valid point. As an ‘acquired rights’ driver, I had the option of test, or 35 hrs of death by powerpoint. I chose the test, as I thought it would be more informative. It’s rather hit and miss really. Mod 2 (theory) was pretty much a broad learning experience covering everything from application of common sense, loading, driving, hours and tacho etc…Mod 4 practical test was fundamentally geared towards daily checks; and searching for illegals/contraband (although it can be dependant on the whims of your assessor).
Anyhow, whilst no test can fully prepare you for the ‘real world’, I was left a little surprised that it wasn’t a little more broad.
That said, I could have sat the 35 hrs, slept through most of it, and still gained a DQC with no test, and no real knowledge. Funny old world.
Hi el_presidente. I’m hoping to find myself in the same position as you soon. What kind of cost did module 2 and 4 cost you?
I was quoted 240 if I remember rightly. Be careful tho it can be failed and u pay again where as 35hrs can’t be and then ur away. Plus it’s like a refresher.
I could have gone down the acquired right route but didn’t fancy blowing it.
rocketsquadron:
Spooky558:
el_presidente:
trevHCS:
Unfortunately the initial CPC route isn’t helpful in that respect as there’s very little info on tachos apart from driver hours and a little bit on dual manning to pass CPC mod 1 and 2. Bit of a backwards step really not having to do the 35 hours initially (one I wished I’d done), but suppose that’s “progress” according to the DVSA. Even reading the official guide provided by them, I can’t find anything about how tacho’s work.Valid point. As an ‘acquired rights’ driver, I had the option of test, or 35 hrs of death by powerpoint. I chose the test, as I thought it would be more informative. It’s rather hit and miss really. Mod 2 (theory) was pretty much a broad learning experience covering everything from application of common sense, loading, driving, hours and tacho etc…Mod 4 practical test was fundamentally geared towards daily checks; and searching for illegals/contraband (although it can be dependant on the whims of your assessor).
Anyhow, whilst no test can fully prepare you for the ‘real world’, I was left a little surprised that it wasn’t a little more broad.
That said, I could have sat the 35 hrs, slept through most of it, and still gained a DQC with no test, and no real knowledge. Funny old world.
Hi el_presidente. I’m hoping to find myself in the same position as you soon. What kind of cost did module 2 and 4 cost you?
I was quoted 240 if I remember rightly. Be careful tho it can be failed and u pay again where as 35hrs can’t be and then ur away. Plus it’s like a refresher.
I could have gone down the acquired right route but didn’t fancy blowing it.
I never considered that it could be failed! Slight oversight on my behalf.
I just thought mod 2 & 4 could be completed in one day, whereas the 35 hours obviously takes 5 days…
I’ll have to think about it.
Hello,
Sorry for the late reply been working temporary as a van driver, can you explain the break times please. I know you have to have a break of 45 mins after 4.5 hours driving, but if I do multi drop driving and I have not done 4.5 hours driving in 6 hours do I need to have a different break.
Thanks in advance for the reply’s.
Dal U:
Sorry for the late reply been working temporary as a van driver, can you explain the break times please. I know you have to have a break of 45 mins after 4.5 hours driving, but if I do multi drop driving and I have not done 4.5 hours driving in 6 hours do I need to have a different break.
For the working time regulations you should not work more than 6 hours without a break of at-least 15 minutes, driving breaks also count as breaks for the WTD and where appropriate vice versa.
Because WTD break can also count towards driving breaksif you haven’t had a driving break the 15 minute break at or just before 6 hours working time also counts as the first part of a split driving break.
Driving Breaks
Whenever a break of 45 minutes or more is taken, or when a split driving break is completed, a new 4½ hour driving period begins.
The rules for the working time breaks are
No worker should work more than 6 hours without a break of 15 minutes. (commonly known as the 6 hour rule)
So the rule for the 6 hour rule is:
A 15 minute break should start
Total breaks in each shift should be:
Up-to 6 hours working time.
If the total working time in the shift is more than 6 hours but not more than 9 hours.
Or (You are legally required to comply with either the rule above, or the rule bellow but not both)
If the total working time in the shift is more than 9 hours.
Breaks for the working time regulations (RT(WT)R 2005) can be split into separate breaks of at-least 15 minutes each and cannot be taken at the immediate start or end of the shift.
Driving breaks count as breaks for the RT(WT)R and where appropriate breaks for the RT(WT)R count as driving breaks.
So I understand that after 4.5 hours driving I need a 45min break, but if i do 6 hours work I take my 15 min break, but I don’t do 4.5 hours driving in the 6 hours does my driving time reset or do I still have to have a break when I reach the 4.5 hours.
Thanks
Dal U:
So I understand that after 4.5 hours driving I need a 45min break, but if i do 6 hours work I take my 15 min break, but I don’t do 4.5 hours driving in the 6 hours does my driving time reset or do I still have to have a break when I reach the 4.5 hours.Thanks
Your driving hours will only reset after a 45 minute break (or a 15 followed by a 30) they will not reset after a 15.
There are circumstances where the tacho might display that your drive time has been reset although legally you haven’t had a break. (Some units used to reset after 3 X 15 minute break entries but this wouldn’t count as a legal break for driving hours, just WTD)