This question may have been asked before, but anyway here goes, if I spend my working day taking a truck for inspection/service, waiting for it, return it to depot, doing the same thing with a second truck, should I remove my digi card whilst the vehicle is in the workshop? and if so should I do manual entries?
Thanks in advance.
If i ever have to do that i would take the card out while the truck was being seviced/inspected. when you reinsert it will ask you what you have been doing since it was withdrawn, personally i would select break as i would consider i was freely able to dispose of my time by going for a walk or watching a film on my phone. unless you are told to sit in a waiting room and go nowhere then it would have to be otherwork, that should of covered all base’s 
wildfire:
If i ever have to do that i would take the card out while the truck was being seviced/inspected. when you reinsert it will ask you what you have been doing since it was withdrawn, personally i would select break as i would consider i was freely able to dispose of my time by going for a walk or watching a film on my phone. unless you are told to sit in a waiting room and go nowhere then it would have to be otherwork, that should of covered all base’s
being told to sit in a waiting room doesn’t automatically mean the time cannot be recorded as a break. the driver does not need to be free to dispose of his time etc. As long as he is not driving or carrying out any work and the time can be used exclusively to recuperate - then it can be a break.
of course if they have told you how long the wait is likely to be then you may be able to record a POA. personally I’d be recording break (unless of course i don’t get paid for breaks).
otherwise the advice of taking the card out followed by a manual entry for the period of time is perfect.
shep532:
wildfire:
If i ever have to do that i would take the card out while the truck was being seviced/inspected. when you reinsert it will ask you what you have been doing since it was withdrawn, personally i would select break as i would consider i was freely able to dispose of my time by going for a walk or watching a film on my phone. unless you are told to sit in a waiting room and go nowhere then it would have to be otherwork, that should of covered all base’sbeing told to sit in a waiting room doesn’t automatically mean the time cannot be recorded as a break. the driver does not need to be free to dispose of his time etc. As long as he is not driving or carrying out any work and the time can be used exclusively to recuperate - then it can be a break.
of course if they have told you how long the wait is likely to be then you may be able to record a POA. personally I’d be recording break (unless of course i don’t get paid for breaks).
otherwise the advice of taking the card out followed by a manual entry for the period of time is perfect.
i stand corrected 
brain slow today, correct freely dispose of time is for daily rest 
And if you leave it in and a fitter takes it on a test drive once repair, it will look like you have driven it, so I would take it out and record it as poa or break.
Ken.
Thanks guys for your replies, taking out card is the best option.
Quinny:
And if you leave it in and a fitter takes it on a test drive once repair, it will look like you have driven it, so I would take it out and record it as poa or break.Ken.
fitter should have a card in if doing this … the point is to eliminate missing mileage
Quinny:
And if you leave it in and a fitter takes it on a test drive once repair, it will look like you have driven it, so I would take it out and record it as poa or break.Ken.
when you take the truck for inspection, do you know BEFOREHAND how long you are going to be there?
if not, you can’t legally record it as POA
shuttlespanker:
Quinny:
And if you leave it in and a fitter takes it on a test drive once repair, it will look like you have driven it, so I would take it out and record it as poa or break.Ken.
when you take the truck for inspection, do you know BEFOREHAND how long you are going to be there?
if not, you can’t legally record it as POA
unless you’ve been there before a few times and you know by experience its gonna be about x time ie normally half hour 40mins etc
nick2008:
Quinny:
And if you leave it in and a fitter takes it on a test drive once repair, it will look like you have driven it, so I would take it out and record it as poa or break.Ken.
fitter should have a card in if doing this … the point is to eliminate missing mileage
Why should a fitter have a card in Nick?
If a fitter is doing repairs or taking the vehicle for a test drive then he doesn’t need to insert a card.
peter s:
If a fitter is doing repairs or taking the vehicle for a test drive then he doesn’t need to insert a card.
Correct
There are only 4 types of digital card.
- Driver Card - Recording.
- Company Card - Locking in/out company data and downloading.
- Workshop Card - Tachograph calibration and repair.
- Enforcement card - Used for downloading by officials.
Where we used to go fitter always put a card in may have been company policy though
Wheel Nut:
Why should a fitter have a card in Nick?
to save you having to explain why the tacho records an error : driving without card ?
shuttlespanker:
Quinny:
And if you leave it in and a fitter takes it on a test drive once repair, it will look like you have driven it, so I would take it out and record it as poa or break.Ken.
when you take the truck for inspection, do you know BEFOREHAND how long you are going to be there?
if not, you can’t legally record it as POA
I won’t name the company, nor the individual concerned, (As some members on here will know him.) but suffice to say he worked for a well known large operator in the UK in a fairly responsible position, and he now works for a customer of our agency in a similar role, and he told all drivers about 12 months ago, that the official line is you now do not need to know how long the downtime will be, and you can record even 1 minute of poa if you want to.
I have just been working over xmas for a large food related compnay, and nobody has picked up on my poa periods, whether they are 1 minute or 25.
Ken.