Diesel engine runaway

wildfire:
turbo seals blown letting oil into the inlet manifold, the only way to stop it is to stall the engine turning the key off won’t help, it will stop in the end when it fires a conrod out the side of the engine :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

turbo seals; what the ■■■■ is a turbo seal
what the hell has the turbo got to do with the engine oil
wont turn off by the key what are you talking about

I hand grenaded a Leyland 680. Nothing strange, no noises beforehand, just went like one of those chinese bands with all the drums and cymbals… then really nice and quiet.

cieranc:
Or hoy a coat over the air intake,

ow yer that gana do it a lot of good ant it
chocking the ■■■■■■ to death

wilbur:

Lovlyperson:
You also could cut the Pipe from tank

It’s not running on diesel. It’s running on engine oil.

i have ran many diesels on engine oil and it never smoked like that

The turbo’s cooled and lubricated by the engine oil. If a seal goes the engine can ■■■■ up it’s own oil and run away. It’s all been explained earlier.

Moose:
co2 into the air intake will work if you have a good size fire extinguisher handy!

and what do you think that is going to do■■?

Boss & Driver:
I dont have a sound card but have watched the vid
and I cant believe some of the above replies hear
it is hard to see from the video coz it is dark but it looks like black smoke not blue
why everyone thinks its engine oil I dont know

whats your opinion then?
i thought it’s clear that it’s running on oil as in “runaway”

Boss & Driver:

Moose:
co2 into the air intake will work if you have a good size fire extinguisher handy!

and what do you think that is going to do■■?

…kin no all ■■■■

without air oxygen it cant run end of…

Moose:
whats your opinion then?
i thought it’s clear that it’s running on oil as in “runaway”

it looks like black smoke not blue
so therefor unburn fuel

dont talk ■■■■■■■■!

I once saw it happen to an eightleg Hoveringham tipper. I came round a bend and there was a huge cloud of smoke and two guys waving me down. We just stood there as it got louder and louder, belching smoke until, finally !BANG! the crankshaft bearings failed and the con rods exited through the side of the engine. Just like the one in the vid above.

I was told that the cause was the governor failing. With no governor there is nothing to stop it from just going faster and faster. No way to stop it either unless you cut the fuel line but the driver was sensible and legged it.

the engine can runaway on either oil or diesel during different types of breakdown, i used to run a fl7 and the rack once jammed up in the fuel pump totaling the pump so there were no governers to control enging speed which made it runaway (a common fault on some pre fly by wire fuel pumps) this was in the middle lane of the m25 turning of the key wont do owt so i got of at j11 and pulled into the lay bye and stalled it.
i once also had an old landrover which was well worn and after reving it would run away on it’s own oil getting past the rings!
so when this happened we just stalled it, but it ran for another 12 months before the end came!
moose

Boss & Driver indeed. Who do you think you’re fooling CH? :laughing: :unamused:

Happened to me with a 2 day old Ford D series a long time ago.
Lots of smoke and steam and noise…then silence.

this one.

no turbo, intercooler or anything fancy on this one. mechanic claimed that “the rack in the pump had jammed”
I pulled the engine stop cable out of the floor and had it in my hand when hiding behind a nearby wall.

The old SIMMS injector pumps fitted with pneumatic governors (as used on early Bedford and BMC diesels etc) used to runaway when the diaphragms split in use, the revs went sky high until the crank started chucking sump oil up onto the bore and then there was little chance of stopping the inevitable ‘bang’. If you managed to either block the inlet or bung the exhaust up as soon as the revs rose you might just manage to save the engine.

Pete.

Ha harrrrr ha ha ha, Boss and Driver, your posts are funny. Make you look like a right tail end ha ha ha.

Or maybe that’s a bit harsh, it makes you look like you know knack all about engines for sure!

Boss & Driver:
it looks like black smoke not blue so therefor unburn fuel

Yes, you’re clearly right. Because the engine gets faster and faster by not burning fuel :unamused:

Boss & Driver:

Moose:
co2 into the air intake will work if you have a good size fire extinguisher handy!

and what do you think that is going to do■■?

Can either diesel or oil burn without oxygen? I don’t know of any trucks that run on monofuels. Some gas turbines that have an emergency monofuel supply to the APU maybe.

Boss & Driver:
i have ran many diesels on engine oil and it never smoked like that

Maybe you have, but did you put the oil in the fuel tank, where the injector pump can govern it’s delivery, or feed an unlimited, unregulated pressurised supply direct into the intake manifold?

Boss & Driver:

cieranc:
Or hoy a coat over the air intake,

ow yer that gana do it a lot of good ant it
chocking the [zb] to death

Starve it of air yes, so the engine can’t run. What damage will that do to the engine? In your professional capacity of a know-it-all horses handbrake, do you think starving the engine of air would cause more or less damage than allowing it to rev itself beyond it’s mechanical capabilities?

Same happened to me going up the French side of the hill at Le Junquarra. It was a Swiss F7 cabbed F12. I remember white smoke -I bailed out. It eventually stopped when the turbo ended up amongst the pistons.

My dad reckons the gardiner diesel engines are the best engines ever, he swears by them.
Rolls royce eagle diesel though…