Surely this can not be correct to wrap acid that they use to rinse pipes at farm dairies,with what looks like my cheap plastic poly vinyl chlorite sandwhich wrapping around over a ton of chemicals on a pallet.
There is no strength in the material,one pallet had a bit of string to secure the top rack of containers,that will look good when VOSA do an ADR check,might as well put some baler twine on it while they are at it.
Last week,i collected a triple stacked pallet,ADR,the bottom pallet had one box in each corner of the pallet,containing small plastic bottles of insecticide worth thousands of pounds,in the middle of the pallet there was nothing,four card board boxes to support the corrosive and flammable goods on top.It is to do with cost cutting,if anything happens it`s me that will carry the can,if i am knocked out in an accident why should the fire chief have the worry of some lazy shipper or exporter,down to you Dave on this one,i can PM you the firm involved,you will be surprised that they have done this, all the time too.
simple dont load them
I know Dave reads speaks and writes German very well, not so sure he will have as much luck with Tobys posting though
Yavol,das ist gute,auf wiedersen.
toby1234abc:
Surely this can not be correct to wrap acid that they use to rinse pipes at farm dairies,with what looks like my cheap plastic poly vinyl chlorite sandwhich wrapping around over a ton of chemicals on a pallet.
Hi Toby,
You have encountered a thing called an ‘overpack.’
Dums are counted as ‘single packagings’ so that means that they’re good to go in their own right as they are.
If a consignor decides to band/tie drums on a pallet for ease of handling and then wraps them in shrink-wrap or a similar extra banding/wrapping, then he’s more than met the minimum requirements. Once a pallet or similar load tray is treated in this way, it then meets the definition of an ‘overpack’ and is perfectly legal.
toby1234abc:
There is no strength in the material,one pallet had a bit of string to secure the top rack of containers,that will look good when VOSA do an ADR check,might as well put some baler twine on it while they are at it.
That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it, but…
Please don’t forget that the consignor is responsible, not you.
If you have any concerns, my advice is that you ask the consignor, but if you’re still unhappy, then I’d suggest that you speak to your boss so that he has the opportunity of raising it with the consignor himself.
toby1234abc:
Last week,i collected a triple stacked pallet,ADR,the bottom pallet had one box in each corner of the pallet,containing small plastic bottles of insecticide worth thousands of pounds,in the middle of the pallet there was nothing,four card board boxes to support the corrosive and flammable goods on top.It is to do with cost cutting,if anything happens it`s me that will carry the can,if i am knocked out in an accident why should the fire chief have the worry of some lazy shipper or exporter,down to you Dave on this one,i can PM you the firm involved,you will be surprised that they have done this, all the time too.
Toby, there’s no point PMing me the name of the firm as I have no conncetion with enforcement.
It is theoretically possible that the consignment (as you’ve described it) might not meet the mixed packing rules contained in ADR, but again, I’ll point out that this is the consignor’s reponsibility and not something that you should worry about.
I’m not sure how you’ve worked out that you’ll carry the can, because it isn’t a driver’s responsibility to decide which dangerous goods can/cannot be packed with which other dangerous goods on the same pallet.
Great advice from DD,many thanks for all that.