Not strictly truck related but … flew back into Manchester this afternoon and as I was walking to passport control looking out towards the runway I noticed some baggage carts with red and yellow tarpaulins on them and emblazoned with DHL, nothing too strange there , but then i noticed the carts wheels had yellow wheel nut markers on them 
where the hell is it going to end ?
It tickled me and at the same time I was a bit gobsmacked that elf n safety has gotten to this level 
largebloke1969:
I was a bit gobsmacked that elf n safety has gotten to this level
I often find the people who say this lacking in their ability to think for themselves and imagine what the reason could be. Maybe it is as a result of one or more incidents of loose ones coming off and the contents of said carts coming off and possibly hitting someone?
Yellow wheel nut markers on trucks were brought out for similar reasons, loose nuts which spanner drivers didn’t check for resulting in wheels coming off so an idiot proof solution that even those who can’t think for themselves could understand was devised.
I imagine a cart wheel being sucked into a jet engine may cost a bit more than some check markers
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Conor:
largebloke1969:
I was a bit gobsmacked that elf n safety has gotten to this levelI often find the people who say this lacking in their ability to think for themselves and imagine what the reason could be. Maybe it is as a result of one or more incidents of loose ones coming off and the contents of said carts coming off and possibly hitting someone?
Yellow wheel nut markers on trucks were brought out for similar reasons, loose nuts which spanner drivers didn’t check for resulting in wheels coming off so an idiot proof solution that even those who can’t think for themselves could understand was devised.
Good old trucknet strikes again , sorry mr perfect pants
In fairness as much as I do believe some H&S is absolute bobbins I’m not overly surprised that airside in an airport things are quite strict and as little as possible is left to chance.
Watch a few episodes of ‘Seconds from Disaster’ and you’ll soon come across an air disaster caused by debris.
In fact thinking about it wasn’t it debris that pretty much killed Concorde?
toonsy:
In fairness as much as I do believe some H&S is absolute bobbins I’m not overly surprised that airside in an airport things are quite strict and as little as possible is left to chance.Watch a few episodes of ‘Seconds from Disaster’ and you’ll soon come across an air disaster caused by debris.
In fact thinking about it wasn’t it debris that pretty much killed Concorde?
From memory a tyre exploded, and ruptured the fuel tank above it…
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Conor:
largebloke1969:
I was a bit gobsmacked that elf n safety has gotten to this levelI often find the people who say this lacking in their ability to think for themselves and imagine what the reason could be. Maybe it is as a result of one or more incidents of loose ones coming off and the contents of said carts coming off and possibly hitting someone?
Yellow wheel nut markers on trucks were brought out for similar reasons, loose nuts which spanner drivers didn’t check for resulting in wheels coming off so an idiot proof solution that even those who can’t think for themselves could understand was devised.
Well speaking as somebody who is dumb 
…maybe you are right, ONE or more (maybe even two) out of THOUSANDS of carts where the nuts came loose, more than likely nobody was hit, and it was a non event, so cue the knee jerk reaction of good old H&S .
Nothing wrong with genuine Health issues being targeted and genuine Safety issues being targeted…, but c’mon Conor, even somebody as brainwashed with all this H&S ■■■■■■■■ as yourself can see my point, the majority is well over the top.
While i was doing my trade training in the RAF many moons ago, the sootys had a cut away turbine engine that something as innocuous as a paper clip or washer had been sucked through. It chipped one of the initial blades which in turn totally mutilated the subsequent blades and screwed the engine. This is why airports get a tad twitchy about FOD and hence wheel nut covers on airside trolleys. Sorry for sounding a bit noddy.
Franglais:
toonsy:
In fairness as much as I do believe some H&S is absolute bobbins I’m not overly surprised that airside in an airport things are quite strict and as little as possible is left to chance.Watch a few episodes of ‘Seconds from Disaster’ and you’ll soon come across an air disaster caused by debris.
In fact thinking about it wasn’t it debris that pretty much killed Concorde?
From memory a tyre exploded, and ruptured the fuel tank above it…
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Which was from the plane previous to it - think it was a DC10 or MD11…
DAF95XF:
Franglais:
toonsy:
In fairness as much as I do believe some H&S is absolute bobbins I’m not overly surprised that airside in an airport things are quite strict and as little as possible is left to chance.Watch a few episodes of ‘Seconds from Disaster’ and you’ll soon come across an air disaster caused by debris.
In fact thinking about it wasn’t it debris that pretty much killed Concorde?
From memory a tyre exploded, and ruptured the fuel tank above it…
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Which was from the plane previous to it - think it was a DC10 or MD11…
Correct. Fabricated metal strip fell off it & Concorde then ran over it.
A large piece of the tyre debris struck the underside of the wing and caused a pressure wave in the fuel tank within that wing which then ruptured 
I remember FOD from RAF Waddington when Vulcan was based there, they were keen.
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At Heathrow you would be automatically suspended and face an enquiry board for even parking in the wrong place near an aircraft .
When I regularly worked airside as a contractor H+S was strict but when explained it was all pretty logical . We carried £150m liability insurance so that we could work airside , that was back in the late 70s so I should imagine it’s probably treble that now .
I was airside on the day a catering wagon bumped the engine of a 747 that was taxying . That was an interesting day trying to move about .
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Most likely based on a recent incident, I suspect a wheel off one of these would cause massive disruption to timetables, extra work for ground crew, Fed-up passengers and a big bill for DHL
That’s progress and a Cheap option for me !
Anyone know DHL’s wheel policy? I personally think it’s stupid as ■■■■.
If a wheel needs removed, after it gets put back on you need to wait 30 mins without driving then get it re torqued. So the tyre fitter is waiting for 30 mins aswell.
Why not drive 5mins down the road then re-torque?
merc0447:
Anyone know DHL’s wheel policy? I personally think it’s stupid as [zb].If a wheel needs removed, after it gets put back on you need to wait 30 mins without driving then get it re torqued. So the tyre fitter is waiting for 30 mins aswell.
Why not drive 5mins down the road then re-torque?
Tyre fitters used to tell me this when I worked for Wincanton. Luckily, wincanton’s policy was drive round the yard or wherever then get them to re-torque. This makes a lot more sense to me.
merc0447:
Anyone know DHL’s wheel policy? I personally think it’s stupid as [zb].If a wheel needs removed, after it gets put back on you need to wait 30 mins without driving then get it re torqued. So the tyre fitter is waiting for 30 mins aswell.
Why not drive 5mins down the road then re-torque?
the 30 minutes wait,then a re-torque is correct. apparently,Daf also recommend a further re-torque after 100 km’s.
carryfast-yeti:
the 30 minutes wait,then a re-torque is correct. apparently,Daf also recommend a further re-torque after 100 km’s.
Its an industry recommendation/standard, especially for the lightweight alloy wheels of today, studs and nuts are at a finite torque and they do stretch, clamping forces relax
lots of mitigation here, weights your running at, miles you run etc. but the standard is there for a reason
DHL’s third retorque is usually between 50 and 80KMs after the second one. When I used to work at their Haverton Hill yard, retorquing their deckers with their Ric Clips was a total PITA.
I’m surprised that they don’t fit yellow markers onto their planes or company cars!
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