A question on taking C+E:-
when entering a busy roundabout that has a constant flow of traffic, would sitting waiting for a space big enough to get an artic out without slowing the flow of traffic be classed as hesitation on a test? If i do enter the roundabout and hold the progress of any vehicles am I going to fail due to this?
Firstly: Safety above ALL else.
You won’t, or shouldn’t be marked down for sitting waiting for a gap you think is safe enough to get an artic out at a roundabout, HOWEVER, if you’re deemed to have caused someone to slow down or take action then it’s a safety and an instant fail I believe.
rubberfrog:
A question on taking C+E:-when entering a busy roundabout that has a constant flow of traffic, would sitting waiting for a space big enough to get an artic out without slowing the flow of traffic be classed as hesitation on a test? If i do hold the progress of any vehicles am I going to fail due to this?
Hesitation would be not going when a suitable gap is available - suitable being you not having an effect on other traffic, so waiting for that gap would not be hesitation, no matter how many vehicles are behind you.
This is a common mistake people make on test when all they really have to do is wait till it is safe.
Hope this helps
John
Sam Millar:
Firstly: Safety above ALL else.You won’t, or shouldn’t be marked down for sitting waiting for a gap you think is safe enough to get an artic out at a roundabout, HOWEVER, if you’re deemed to have caused someone to slow down or take action then it’s a safety and an instant fail I believe.
Agree.
As my trainer always said to me, “I’d rather you get marked down for hessitancy than a fail due to making someone slow down, or even come close to an accident”.
You could even say things out loud on the roundabout, why you are waiting, I.e. someone not indicating and not sure which direction he is going etc . This might make the examiner aware of something he might not have seen.
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It’s when you … er hang on I’ll get back to you.
Agree with the above. BUT, many errors on roundabouts are caused by failure to slow down, anticipate, and observe the actions of other folk on and around the roundabout.
So often, candidates just “arrive” at the roundabout and then look.
All the best, Pete 
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Peter Smythe:
Agree with the above. BUT, many errors on roundabouts are caused by failure to slow down, anticipate, and observe the actions of other folk on and around the roundabout.So often, candidates just “arrive” at the roundabout and then look.
All the best, Pete
Forward Planning is everything 
Peter Smythe:
So often, candidates just “arrive” at the roundabout and then look.
100% agree. When the DSA used to publish a league table of LGV failure points, roundabouts were always No 1. The current DL25 marks it as observation because there is nowhere else to put it on the sheet. I am talking aout making another vehicle slow down because you pulled out.
When taking a C+E test planning is so important. A 44 tonne truck stopping and having to start again is a hard drive. Try to imagine that you can never stop. Plan further ahead and adjust your speed to ensure that when you arrive at the roundabout you arrive when there is a gap.
Not always possible but it can happen a lot more than you think if you want it to happen. In fact MAKE it happen. Try to stop less often, it is one of the biggest ways to pass the test.
i passed my cat c on friday i got 9 minors 3 of them were for 20. PROGRESS, appropriate speed. i didnt get any for undue hesitance as i always hang of the gas and gave my self plenty of time approching roundabouts and junctions etc. as my instructer said (and i agree and passed because of…) its better to be marked down for a minor in undue hesitance and appropriate speed than to get a serious or danger for pulling out in front of sombody or blocking a busy junction. somtimes mate its worth the hit for a minor and i think on friday i proved that… i got a minor for saftey moving off (didnt do my 6 point check (N00B)) and control moving off too. i got 2 for gears and 1 for footbrake. but that was nerves. anyways i passed and thats al that matters if you want my advice for the test pal its go slow as you can (but dont take the mick) and give yourself plenty of time DRIVE defenceivly you be ok. im presuming your worried about undue hesitancy hence the question? if not sorry 
“IF IN DOUBT, DONT PULL OUT”
sorry meant to place a new post. 
4whatitsworth:
Dithering about like an old woman
One of my grandmothers was a demon when she got behind the wheel of the family landrover, an old series 2. She still lived to the ripe old age of 94 but I am sure she sent a few other drivers to their grave early in just shock.
If I’m at a T-junction and turning right, and there is a car to my right coming towards me, and indicates to pull into the road I’m pulling out from, if I wait until he’s actually turning into the road, that is hesitancy.
Unfortunately I have witnessed plenty of times when vehicles indicate but have no real desire to go in that direction. In those instances you need to rely on the other ‘tells’ from that driver such speed and other actions on his part, if you can squeeze that into your decision making time
Then again, as I’m now doing my C+E surely it’s time for me to listen and absorb than natter away 
Imagine you’ve already clocked 11 hours driving and still have another 2 until you get to your drop… Thats the opposite end of the scale.