Defect reports and repairs

[quackers]

Whilst manoeuvring on Monday I caught my nearside mirror on a spar of exterior shelving at a Jewsons site
The mirror glass was cracked in a star shape and a little piece fell out of the left edge. Good visibility still remains though.
I reported it to my office and was told to defect the unit every day until I return to base.
As I am a tramper I didn’t return until yesterday (Saturday) and I handed in all defect reports at that time.

Am I correct in thinking that unless that mirror glass is replaced I shouldn’t leave base tomorrow?

Thanks.

[f-reds]

I think it would say a lot about their maintenance, that they couldn’t manage to replace a mirror lens with a weeks notice.

[dipper_dave]

Better to stay at Jewsons till it was fixed IMHO, or at worst take it to a repair centre locally.

[dipper_dave]

Quackers:
Am I correct in thinking that unless that mirror glass is replaced I shouldn’t leave base tomorrow?
Thanks.

Yes.

[kaistar]

Nothing stopping your gaffer booking it into a service centre en route providing he factors the stop into your schedule.
Takes about an hour usually from driving through the gates to being back on your way.

[lolipop]

As I understand it,once a defect sheet is made out signed and handed in,the Company is obliged to rectify the defect before the vehicle is allowed out on the road again.In your case they had verbal notice prior to making out a defect sheet,enough time to order parts in so there is no excuse.

[juddian]

Could you have nipped into a dealer during the week whilst out and about, bought the part and fitted it, then claimed the cost back.

If the company have their own workshops this should be a two minute job, as said if they can’t organise a mirror glass they’d better not try getting ■■■■■■ in a brewery.

[quackers]

Sorry guys, I fell asleep

They apparently have spare mirror glasses at their “workshop” (which is at a site down the road from home base) but in all honesty I’d be amazed if they have had it done by tomorrow as the boss is away. We’ll see.

I thought that once it was defected they had to repair it before it went out again but I wasn’t 100% sure.

Thanks again.

[cav551]

lolipop:
As I understand it,once a defect sheet is made out signed and handed in,the Company is obliged to rectify the defect before the vehicle is allowed out on the road again.In your case they had verbal notice prior to making out a defect sheet,enough time to order parts in so there is no excuse.

Not strictly true. As in the instance of defects reported from a Preventive Maintenance Inspection, the duty is to categorise the defect regarding whether immediate rectification is necessary or if this can be delayed for a sensible period.

[dipper_dave]

As a chunk had already fell out its not a stretch to imagina a VOSA/DVSA tug would bring about a PG Tips thingy for an Immediate prohibition…etc
Amazes me how some drivers are unable to take responsibility for their vehicle, who gives a toss how it happened…at the end of the day your vehicle is not roadworthy (bit of an exageration but you know what I mean) and you should have had this fixed ASAP.

As you have drove for a week like this I can only imagine that you need some re-training…

[quackers]

Dipper_Dave:
As a chunk had already fell out its not a stretch to imagina a VOSA/DVSA tug would bring about a PG Tips thingy for an Immediate prohibition…etc
Amazes me how some drivers are unable to take responsibility for their vehicle, who gives a toss how it happened…at the end of the day your vehicle is not roadworthy (bit of an exageration but you know what I mean) and you should have had this fixed ASAP.

As you have drove for a week like this I can only imagine that you need some re-training…

Hmm, so I just roll to a MAN service centre - no order number, no instructions to do so by my employer and get it fixed. Or I lend my employer money and pay for it myself.
Is that what you’re saying?

It amazes me that some people can “just” get these things fixed at the drop of a hat. Never been able to do that myself.

As for further training I’m not even sure what you mean or even how you arrive at such a comment.

Please explain further. After 18 years in the job I’m sure that’s just what I need.

[f-reds]

Please explain further. After 18 years in the job I’m sure that’s just what I need.

You asked this question with 18 years experience■■?

If you can see out of it ok and had raised the issue with the office then I would have used it all week too. But if I knew the gaffer was away, and I had even an inkling
that it wouldn’t be replaced over my weekly rest then I would ■■■■ sure make the office bods know that a wheel wouldn’t be turned come Monday morning if it was still broken.

[cav551]

This above . Exactly

[quackers]

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[quackers]

Quackers:

F-reds:

Please explain further. After 18 years in the job I’m sure that’s just what I need.

You asked this question with 18 years experience■■?

If you can see out of it ok and had raised the issue with the office then I would have used it all week too. But if I knew the gaffer was away, and I had even an inkling
that it wouldn’t be replaced over my weekly rest then I would ■■■■ sure make the office bods know that a wheel wouldn’t be turned come Monday morning if it was still broken.

Yes. Believe it or not I’m not in the habit of damaging things. I’ve also been away from driving for 4 years. Things change. I was just checking that my suspicion was correct.

As my first post stated visibility was still good.

No, I didn’t know my gaffer was away until I got back on Saturday - that’s yesterday so no, until then I didn’t suspect it wouldn’t be fixed. Now I do.

The wheels will not turn tomorrow until it’s fixed so don’t worry.

Good to see drivers still sticking together as always. Not trying to stick it to each other at the first opportunity.

[dipper_dave]

Quackers:
Please explain further. After 18 years in the job I’m sure that’s just what I need.

Apologies for re-quoting back to front but my ‘re-training’ comment was tongue in cheek and not intended to cause offence… The fact that you have had to highlight your 18 years (probably nearer 18 weeks) experience shows I may have been taken the wrong way… apologies for that.

Anyway

Hmm, so I just roll to a MAN service centre - no order number, no instructions to do so by my employer and get it fixed. Or I lend my employer money and pay for it myself.
Is that what you’re saying?

Nope you ring your employer and inform them you have had a misshap and now have a ‘potentially’ unroadworthy vehicle…Arse covering is pointless here just own up and ask for assistance.
Your employer should then contact or give you the number for their repair contract squad (you should already have this for things like tyres (there the black round things that are closest to the road) and then you will call and either arrange a on site fix or a short drive to a local repair centre.

It amazes me that some people can “just” get these things fixed at the drop of a hat. Never been able to do that myself.

Quite common really, the 24 hour hotline should already be programmed into your phone, simply call them out and repair is done sharpish.

As for further training I’m not even sure what you mean or even how you arrive at such a comment.

Bit of a stretch but from what you have told us you have driven a damaged and unsafe vehicle on the road, any impairment to your visual ability can have dangerous repercussions.
Quick bit of free re-trainng: your first priority is road safety not driving with this defect all week, muppet .

No offence intended, we all live and learn and I’ve driven with a dodgy mirror a few times myself (not for a chuffin week though).
You must be quackers to do this… [weak attempt at ironic humour]

[quackers]

Er what phone? My own? Because that’s the only phone I have. No works phone in my cab.

I passed my class 1 on 4th October 1996, so almost 18 years.

I drove artics continuously until approx 4 years ago when I stopped to play golf.

Sadly I now have to pay the bills and I went back to driving.

Anything else you don’t believe?

I’m glad I asked for confirmation of my suspicions re: the repairs to my cracked mirror.

It’s been a gas.

Thanks all.

[dipper_dave]

Quackers:
Er what phone? My own? Because that’s the only phone I have. No works phone in my cab.

Yep your own phone will do, for now the priority is road safety, oh and the small matter of avoiding a PG9 or whatever its called

I passed my class 1 on 4th October 1996, so almost 18 years.

Ahhh but experience and ability don’t always go hand in hand, I passed mine in 1991 but I’m still crap

I drove artics continuously until approx 4 years ago when I stopped to play golf.

A lot has happened in those 4 years

Sadly I now have to pay the bills and I went back to driving.

Yep we all do, doesn’t make you special

Anything else you don’t believe?

Nope, the fact you have admitted driving a vehicle with a potentially leathal fault covers it for me.

I’m glad I asked for confirmation of my suspicions re: the repairs to my cracked mirror.

It’s been a gas.

Thanks all.

You really don’t understand internet forums at all do you. Fact you drove a vehicle for a week in an unsafe condition, then asked for advice about said unsafe condition, then got a bit stroppy coz I got a bit condescending, I’m of couse muckin about but the serious underlying message is that the onus is on you, if pulled your employer will not back you up. Honestly if I prang my mirror (which I have done) the repair takes precedent over everything else (shock/horror even delivery schedules-the buggers can wait), even if I have to pay myself and claim back from my employer… If he doesn’t cough up i will either take it on the chin or look for another employer.

Edit to add: If this vehicle is not fixed on Monday and your still expected to take it out let us know, well unless you do take it out then I wouldn’t bother

[quackers]

A touch of the hyperbole there dipper. The vehicle is not dangerous. There is no visibility problem (that I found whilst driving it around for a week). A GV9 isn’t my problem, it’s my employer that gets a red light at DVSA, not me. I’ll leave them to worry about that once I’ve reported the incident.

And I have something in excess of 12000 posts on various internet forums, so yes, I understand how they work. I also understand that some people like to exaggerate and pick fault with anyone else’s comments.
I guess some people just have too much time on their hands.

I’m going for a lie down now so that I’m fit to drive the dangerously unsafe vehicle tomorrow, in case it isn’t fixed.

[dipper_dave]

Glad to see you have taken my posts as tongue in cheek, hope its fixed for you tomorrow though so all this is a mute point.
Have a good un.