Winseer:
“Them and Us” is a cartel then… 
Either that, or how they describe themselves is not true.
Since there isn’t actually any “negotiation” (ie no drivers are consulted as to “pay deals” - it’s take the low rate or leave it!) I’d have to assume that they offer a “service” to agencies only, to rip off drivers and squash wages, raise agency margins, and fiddle the taxman out of anything else that one might be able to fool the driver into aiding and abetting them with.
I don’t go there, and neither should anyone else. The only way to stop outfits like this ripping off both drivers and the wider taxpaying public is to shun them full stop.
I’d rather not work at all, than work and get ripped off left right and centre for it.
Do a 8 hour shift @ £6.25ph self-employed, and despite handing over loads of receipts, you’re still paying fuel and wasted time commuting and tax & NI deductions (compounded by full time hours) that mean that from a gross pay of as little as £43.75 per day, you’re keeping around £20 a day once you’ve paid for fuel, wasted time, tax, and insurances (two lots when self-employed remember!)
Oh, I’m forgetting. Some people don’t consider a “drivers wasted time” to have any value whatsoever - not even £6.25ph.
Let’s just not go there eh? 
Same here ■■■■■■■ frustrating so it is 
dc2010:
mac12:
It is time but it will never happen there are to many drivers who think to be a driver you have to work 90 hours per week for £6.20 per hour.
Exactly my point wish drivers would wake up and smell the coffee who else in there right mind would work for £6.20 weekends, nights, bank holidays for so low money.
mate while you have got many eastern europeans here money will never go up and there are more of them to arrive later this year so forget a pay rise the eastern europeans will do your job for less have no complaints and do it quicker
hauliers cant get good rates because of eastern europeans doing internal haulage so we are f###ed all ways round.
eample load from derby to london saturday morning usual job £540
mr eastern european transport comes along we can do that for £220
job lost
north england to milan £800
north england to rome £1000
not that you would to go italy for that poor rates it just shows what little they will run for.
hanson:
dc2010:
mac12:
It is time but it will never happen there are to many drivers who think to be a driver you have to work 90 hours per week for £6.20 per hour.
Exactly my point wish drivers would wake up and smell the coffee who else in there right mind would work for £6.20 weekends, nights, bank holidays for so low money.
mate while you have got many eastern europeans here money will never go up and there are more of them to arrive later this year so forget a pay rise the eastern europeans will do your job for less have no complaints and do it quicker
hauliers cant get good rates because of eastern europeans doing internal haulage so we are f###ed all ways round.
eample load from derby to london saturday morning usual job £540
mr eastern european transport comes along we can do that for £220
job lost
north england to milan £800
north england to rome £1000
not that you would to go italy for that poor rates it just shows what little they will run for.
■■■■ forgot about that oh well need trades all round i guess 