Just to clarify a point. Is the DCPC for HGV a different course to the one for PSV?
Do the hours for one not count for the other?
Stan
I did my HGV one last year, when my card came back, my PCV dCPC expires same day as my HGV now, 9.9.19
Also, a mate with PCV but without HGV did the identical course to renew his, but his expires in 2018.
waynedl:
I did my HGV one last year, when my card came back, my PCV dCPC expires same day as my HGV now, 9.9.19Also, a mate with PCV but without HGV did the identical course to renew his, but his expires in 2018.
CPC’s for PCV expire a year earlier unless you have HGV then they both expire 2019. That is only for those with acquired rights.
Those that do the initial CPC Mod2 & 4 get an expiry date 5 years after the Mod 4 pass date.
dar1976:
waynedl:
I did my HGV one last year, when my card came back, my PCV dCPC expires same day as my HGV now, 9.9.19Also, a mate with PCV but without HGV did the identical course to renew his, but his expires in 2018.
CPC’s for PCV expire a year earlier unless you have HGV then they both expire 2019. That is only for those with acquired rights.
Those that do the initial CPC Mod2 & 4 get an expiry date 5 years after the Mod 4 pass date.
Yeah I know, that’s why I pointed it out, before I did my dCPC, my PCV one would’ve expired in 2013, my HGV in 2014, but after doing it, it brought the PCV one inline with the HGV 1.
But my mate has no HGV so his expires 2018 (2013 + 5)
Stanley Knife:
Just to clarify a point. Is the DCPC for HGV a different course to the one for PSV?Do the hours for one not count for the other?
Stan
Periodic dcpc (the 35 hours) will count for both if the driver has both LGV & PCV
Initial dcpc - seperate for each
Thanks chaps. Cleared that argument up.
Stan
When the Dcpc started
the PCV started a year before the LGV one
hence the difference for holders of only one licence
Further to some of the comments…
Some of the periodic CPC courses can count towards either PCV or LGV (e.g. “tachograph”); some of them are only applicable to one of them (e.g. in the case of LGV, “load security”, in the case of PCV, “passenger safety”).
To do your periodic renewal for either PCV or LGV, you need 5 x 7-hour sessions that are applicable for that category (e.g. for LGV, each of your 7-hour sessions must be of the LGV-only or LGV+PCV type, but you can’t count any of the PCV-only ones).
However, once you’ve got a valid set of CPC sessions for one of the categories, it counts for both, so if you’ve done an LGV periodic renewal, you don’t need to do a PCV periodic renewal as well, and vice-versa.
I hope that’s clear… 
MrFlibble:
Further to some of the comments…Some of the periodic CPC courses can count towards either PCV or LGV (e.g. “tachograph”); some of them are only applicable to one of them (e.g. in the case of LGV, “load security”, in the case of PCV, “passenger safety”).
To do your periodic renewal for either PCV or LGV, you need 5 x 7-hour sessions that are applicable for that category (e.g. for LGV, each of your 7-hour sessions must be of the LGV-only or LGV+PCV type, but you can’t count any of the PCV-only ones).
However, once you’ve got a valid set of CPC sessions for one of the categories, it counts for both, so if you’ve done an LGV periodic renewal, you don’t need to do a PCV periodic renewal as well, and vice-versa.
I hope that’s clear…
That is incorrect
A driver who holds both categories can do for example:-
7 hours of LGV/PCV
14 hours of LGV
14 hours of PCV
Which makes the 35 hours required
ROG:
MrFlibble:
Further to some of the comments…Some of the periodic CPC courses can count towards either PCV or LGV (e.g. “tachograph”); some of them are only applicable to one of them (e.g. in the case of LGV, “load security”, in the case of PCV, “passenger safety”).
To do your periodic renewal for either PCV or LGV, you need 5 x 7-hour sessions that are applicable for that category (e.g. for LGV, each of your 7-hour sessions must be of the LGV-only or LGV+PCV type, but you can’t count any of the PCV-only ones).
However, once you’ve got a valid set of CPC sessions for one of the categories, it counts for both, so if you’ve done an LGV periodic renewal, you don’t need to do a PCV periodic renewal as well, and vice-versa.
I hope that’s clear…
That is incorrect
A driver who holds both categories can do for example:-
7 hours of LGV/PCV
14 hours of LGV
14 hours of PCV
Which makes the 35 hours required
Yep I agree with Rog.
If you have both categories you can do DCPC for either and the DQC expriy will be 2019
Some courses cover both HGV & PCV but this depends completely on how the course was registered in the first place. I have a drivers hours 3/12 module where I forgot to tick the PCV box on the course application - so it now only covers HGV. When I realised I tried to get it changed but no joy - so I registered the same course again but ticked both boxes and now it does both.
Farce of it is - I can deliver that one module with a mixed class of HGV and PCV drivers - yet some rules (mainly domestic) are different - so each one would have to sit and listen to the other ones rules - causes great confusion and something I won’t do again after the first time i did it 
The other silly point is that I have a modular course registered. This is 1 single course number. I have six 3.5 hour modules registered under that single course number and I can deliver any 2 modules under the one course number to count as 7 hours. There is no way DSA or JAUPT know which modules I delivered when i upload the data after the course (it only asks for the course number and driver licence details). So a PCV driver ‘could’ sit through 2 HGV only modules and DSA/JAUPT wouldn’t have a clue and he’d still get the hours.
I suppose they may spot it during an audit if they check licences carefully, but it does show a glaring error in the organisation of things.
When I registered my First Aid course I ticked boxes for HGV & PCV. JAUPT contacted me and I had to justify the relevance of the course to a PCV driver. Like HGV and PCV drivers would need different CPR 
Yet my manual handling course which is purely for HGV they put through for both even though i didn’t tick both boxes.
Pete
shep532:
ROG:
MrFlibble:
Further to some of the comments…Some of the periodic CPC courses can count towards either PCV or LGV (e.g. “tachograph”); some of them are only applicable to one of them (e.g. in the case of LGV, “load security”, in the case of PCV, “passenger safety”).
To do your periodic renewal for either PCV or LGV, you need 5 x 7-hour sessions that are applicable for that category (e.g. for LGV, each of your 7-hour sessions must be of the LGV-only or LGV+PCV type, but you can’t count any of the PCV-only ones).
However, once you’ve got a valid set of CPC sessions for one of the categories, it counts for both, so if you’ve done an LGV periodic renewal, you don’t need to do a PCV periodic renewal as well, and vice-versa.
I hope that’s clear…
That is incorrect
A driver who holds both categories can do for example:-
7 hours of LGV/PCV
14 hours of LGV
14 hours of PCV
Which makes the 35 hours requiredYep I agree with Rog.
If you have both categories you can do DCPC for either and the DQC expriy will be 2019
Some courses cover both HGV & PCV but this depends completely on how the course was registered in the first place. I have a drivers hours 3/12 module where I forgot to tick the PCV box on the course application - so it now only covers HGV. When I realised I tried to get it changed but no joy - so I registered the same course again but ticked both boxes and now it does both.
Farce of it is - I can deliver that one module with a mixed class of HGV and PCV drivers - yet some rules (mainly domestic) are different - so each one would have to sit and listen to the other ones rules - causes great confusion and something I won’t do again after the first time i did it
The other silly point is that I have a modular course registered. This is 1 single course number. I have six 3.5 hour modules registered under that single course number and I can deliver any 2 modules under the one course number to count as 7 hours. There is no way DSA or JAUPT know which modules I delivered when i upload the data after the course (it only asks for the course number and driver licence details). So a PCV driver ‘could’ sit through 2 HGV only modules and DSA/JAUPT wouldn’t have a clue and he’d still get the hours.
I suppose they may spot it during an audit if they check licences carefully, but it does show a glaring error in the organisation of things.
When I registered my First Aid course I ticked boxes for HGV & PCV. JAUPT contacted me and I had to justify the relevance of the course to a PCV driver. Like HGV and PCV drivers would need different CPR
Pete
As I said, my mate who’s PCV only sat the same course I did, which may have brushed along any PCV rules and mentioned domestic rules in passing, and he got his dCPC.
I expected mine to refresh both, but didn’t expect it to bring the PCV inline with the HGV, glad it did though, not that I’m likely to ever use my PCV licence again.
on the 28th of this month i will have my 35 hours for the driver cpc there for covering me until 2019… i know from 2014 that i will have to do at lesat one module a year to continue my dcpc for the next 5 years after 2019, where i work they are putting the drivers through all theirs so between now and 2014 they will all have 35 hours, so if i sit in on the paid for courses, sign the forms tick the boxes etc, will those 21 hours obtained after the 28th of this month and before 2014 count towards the first three modules for the period 2014-2019? or will i still have to do all 5 modules between 2014 and 2019?..
kemaro:
on the 28th of this month i will have my 35 hours for the driver cpc there for covering me until 2019… i know from 2014 that i will have to do at lesat one module a year to continue my dcpc for the next 5 years after 2019, where i work they are putting the drivers through all theirs so between now and 2014 they will all have 35 hours, so if i sit in on the paid for courses, sign the forms tick the boxes etc, will those 21 hours obtained after the 28th of this month and before 2014 count towards the first three modules for the period 2014-2019? or will i still have to do all 5 modules between 2014 and 2019?..
As far as I am aware - any DCPC done after you get your DQC and before September 2014 is not going to count for anything other than some training.
I don’t think you can build up hours in the bank.
Pete
shep532:
kemaro:
on the 28th of this month i will have my 35 hours for the driver cpc there for covering me until 2019… i know from 2014 that i will have to do at lesat one module a year to continue my dcpc for the next 5 years after 2019, where i work they are putting the drivers through all theirs so between now and 2014 they will all have 35 hours, so if i sit in on the paid for courses, sign the forms tick the boxes etc, will those 21 hours obtained after the 28th of this month and before 2014 count towards the first three modules for the period 2014-2019? or will i still have to do all 5 modules between 2014 and 2019?..As far as I am aware - any DCPC done after you get your DQC and before September 2014 is not going to count for anything other than some training.
I don’t think you can build up hours in the bank.
Pete
thats what i thought…
ROG:
MrFlibble:
Further to some of the comments…Some of the periodic CPC courses can count towards either PCV or LGV (e.g. “tachograph”); some of them are only applicable to one of them (e.g. in the case of LGV, “load security”, in the case of PCV, “passenger safety”).
To do your periodic renewal for either PCV or LGV, you need 5 x 7-hour sessions that are applicable for that category (e.g. for LGV, each of your 7-hour sessions must be of the LGV-only or LGV+PCV type, but you can’t count any of the PCV-only ones).
However, once you’ve got a valid set of CPC sessions for one of the categories, it counts for both, so if you’ve done an LGV periodic renewal, you don’t need to do a PCV periodic renewal as well, and vice-versa.
I hope that’s clear…
That is incorrect
A driver who holds both categories can do for example:-
7 hours of LGV/PCV
14 hours of LGV
14 hours of PCV
Which makes the 35 hours required
Hmm, I’m sure I read it somewhere (relatively official), but you could be right.
kemaro:
shep532:
kemaro:
on the 28th of this month i will have my 35 hours for the driver cpc there for covering me until 2019… i know from 2014 that i will have to do at lesat one module a year to continue my dcpc for the next 5 years after 2019, where i work they are putting the drivers through all theirs so between now and 2014 they will all have 35 hours, so if i sit in on the paid for courses, sign the forms tick the boxes etc, will those 21 hours obtained after the 28th of this month and before 2014 count towards the first three modules for the period 2014-2019? or will i still have to do all 5 modules between 2014 and 2019?..As far as I am aware - any DCPC done after you get your DQC and before September 2014 is not going to count for anything other than some training.
I don’t think you can build up hours in the bank.
Pete
thats what i thought…
This is correct, I’ve checked mine and it shows 35 hrs but I actually did 42 hrs because I’d already paid for 1 course whilst in my previous job