Traffic Rat:
Harry, Please explain how you think I am either a pretend traffic officer or a troll ■■?
If you were a real police officer then you would have enough sense to comply with your force’s rules on the use of social media, and you would have enough sense to realise how easily the forum administrator could ascertain your real name from your log-in details. 
Harry Monk:
Traffic Rat:
Harry, Please explain how you think I am either a pretend traffic officer or a troll ■■?If you were a real police officer then you would have enough sense to comply with your force’s rules on the use of social media, and you would have enough sense to realise how easily the forum administrator could ascertain your real name from your log-in details.
If my force had a policy that covers this sort of SM.
I Hold qualifications in Analogue Tacho, Digital Tacho, Drivers hours, CDG, Forensic calibration of Tacho, Weighing vehicles.
95% of the vehicles I deal with are non UK.
Sent from the dark side of a Tachograph!!!
Traffic Rat:
If my force had a policy that covers this sort of SM.I Hold qualifications in Analogue Tacho, Digital Tacho, Drivers hours, CDG, Forensic calibration of Tacho, Weighing vehicles.
95% of the vehicles I deal with are non UK.
You’d probably find this forum perfect for you then.
Harry Monk:
Traffic Rat:
Harry, Please explain how you think I am either a pretend traffic officer or a troll ■■?If you were a real police officer then you would have enough sense to comply with your force’s rules on the use of social media, and you would have enough sense to realise how easily the forum administrator could ascertain your real name from your log-in details.
Plus, the penalties are in black and white on the vosa web site. Nowhere is a £300 fixed penalty mentioned.
The max penalties for any offence can easily be researched. What I was trying to establish was the “going rate”.
Harry Monk:
You’d probably find this forum perfect for you then.
He might already be on this one. Tis a good site
War1974, the Dcpc is not a course and you do not have to pass anything ,you are only required to attend and listen to some random bloke talking a whole load of Betty Bullo5cks , some sleep all day on it .
Then the my mate told me yarns of £ 60 per turn of the trailer leg not being wound up .
Chalked off tyres, the police tell the Rdc the driver can’t move off the bay for 11 hours as they took too long to tip him and now is out of time .
Then the horror and shock videos from the 1970,s showing two Erf,s colliding on an empty test track, the instructor giving you the look of see what happens, know it all look .
Traffic Rat:
Fail to produce DCPC card = £50 Fixed penalty Notice.Not completed DCPC = £300 Fixed Penalty Notice.
You are right regarding the £50 for not being able to produce the card but the £300 doesn’t exist in the DVSA enforcement sanctions policy. The penalty for not doing the DCPC is prosecution at worst, reported to TC at least.
Maybe the Police have a different policy but my local traffic Police don’t - I know because I do their DCPC training and I had to tell them what the enforcement was!!
In answer to the OPs question - as a DCPC Training provider I sometimes get people needing a 5 day course ASAP because they have been caught. I’ve had 7 that I remember this year. Minimum fine they got was £350 from memory - one was £700.
In all cases the Operator received a visit from DVSA and further problems then arose.
One guy in particular also received a request to attend a disciplinary conduct hearing with a TC - but this was because he also had falsified records (didn’t record his non driving activities on driving days) and got a 14 day suspension of his cat C. Unfortunately although his employer agreed to pay his fine - they forgot to do it so it got doubled 
cheekymonkey:
Rog, you make a valid point. I’m interested in the penalties for just not doing the training and therefore not obviously having the card.
OK, I’ll come clean. My retirement date means I’ll need to renew mine for the sake of a few months. So I was considering chancing it when the time comes.
I just wanted to weigh up the pros and cons.
You probably wouldnt get away with it, as your firm would receive a financial slap on the wrist too.
war1974:
still love how they continually refer to the money making scheme as training, its only training if it has any benefit and you learn something - the ability to do a course 5 times and pass makes the whole thing a joke.
What ■■■■■■ me is not so much how they try (and succeed in a lot of cases ) to convince us that it is genuine, but after doing it you then have to go through it ALL again within the required period.
They could disprove what most of us suspect (know) ie. that it is purely a financial excercise , by changing the system whereby after you do the initial first block of courses, instead of doing it all again make it a 4 hour or so refresher 5 years later,… or better still not at all.
robroy:
war1974:
still love how they continually refer to the money making scheme as training, its only training if it has any benefit and you learn something - the ability to do a course 5 times and pass makes the whole thing a joke.What ■■■■■■ me is not so much how they try (and succeed in a lot of cases
They could disprove what most of us suspect (know) ie. that it is purely a financial excercise , by changing the system whereby after you do the initial first block of courses, instead of doing it all again make it a 4 hour or so refresher 5 years later,… or better still not at all.
Or they could let you choose what courses you do rather than making you repeat the same ones over again…
Sent from a sleeper pod atop a BG registered Sprinter parked just outside Crewe.
Roymondo:
Or they could let you choose what courses you do rather than making you repeat the same ones over again…
Who is making you repeat the same ones over and over? Who is this ‘they’ you refer to?
robroy:
war1974:
still love how they continually refer to the money making scheme as training, its only training if it has any benefit and you learn something - the ability to do a course 5 times and pass makes the whole thing a joke.What ■■■■■■ me is not so much how they try (and succeed in a lot of cases
They could disprove what most of us suspect (know) ie. that it is purely a financial excercise , by changing the system whereby after you do the initial first block of courses, instead of doing it all again make it a 4 hour or so refresher 5 years later,… or better still not at all.
this is my main gripe with it and it has got to me so much - I know shep will say totally different and I know It isn’t working by the high amount of basic tacho questions I get from drivers which are wrong, now I know I don’t know everything but other than maybe unforeseen circumstances I haven’t had infringements on my tacho etc.
my point with the whole DCPC is it is purely a money making scheme - how much do you see about the high level of training we all receive being advertised? none, how can it be training when for 7 hours you sit listen (optional) to someone go on about a drivers day / load security / tacho regs / whatever they have managed to get passed by JAUPT. leave and you have a tick in the box, this is what gets me the DCPC could have been a good tool for drivers the perception of joe public the whole lot - what we ended up with is a joke.
shep532:
Roymondo:
Or they could let you choose what courses you do rather than making you repeat the same ones over again…Who is making you repeat the same ones over and over? Who is this ‘they’ you refer to?
WOOSSHH!!
(That’s the sound of a point going straight over someone’s head…)