For agency bods like me, we’re still expected to get our 35 hours in by the deadline.
This will cost us, where it doesn’t cost for full-time exmployees.
How many accountancy firms out there can re-assure me and others that whatever is paid out in fees, time & travel in getting to the course running the 35 hours is fully-offsettable for tax?
You’re supposed to be able to claim for “expenses relating to the performing of your job”. Well, if I don’t do the 35 hours by the deadline the way I understand it, I won’t HAVE a job so I guess that might just make it “compulsory” enough for a claim to be submitted?
I’ve got a quote for ADR 1-6 tankers 35 hour upload fee included. Now I want to offset the whole thing. I pay for IT, and whilst doing the 35 hours, of course I won’t be earning at the agency. If the whole thing is in the classroom, I might be able to book it as “holiday” but I thought “stat leave” had to be actual time off-duty rather than not-driving? I’ve not actually booked any full weeks off this year yet, so I may well have a stat leave quota to use up.
Who’s done DCPC and claimed against it already?
If the deadline had been after 2015, then I wouldn’t be bothering, as it would probably get dropped in a “anti-red-tape drive to favour the recovery of the transport industry”.
However, one has to at the moment consider that the enforcement WILL go ahead as planned next year.
All those who’ve taken the cavalier approach of not giving a ■■■■, will probably choose that moment to hang up their keys for good come the hour. BUT we’re not all 60+ in this industry! I’m fed up with still being the “boy” in my 40’s.
where do you get the bit it “doesn’t cost full time employees”. the dcpc is down to the driver not the employer!!! ok some companies pay for their drivers to do the course,some companies arrange the courses for the employees and then its up to the employees if they wish to pay and go, alot of drivers are paying for the training out of there own pockets
Any course of education necessary for the performance of your job is tax deductible. You’re unlikely to get a deduction for travel costs to get to the course, but as an agency driver, you can claim i think, up to 45p per mile travel to and from your agency jobs. (After a certain number of miles it drops to 35p I think!)
But certainly your full course costs are tax deductible!
I’ve not seen a full-time employer yet who has NOT offered DCPC courses for their full time drivers. I take it there are some minnows out in the sticks who are refusing to have anything to do with it then?
Either way, I already get to claim the 45p per mile - going to an agency assignment, but because I am choosing when and where to go for the ADR course, they are likely only to see me as “not available to work” for a few days. As far as I know, it has to be 5x7 hour days to get the full upload credit. I don’t think I’m allowed to do 2 x 17.5 hour days!
Winseer:
I’ve not seen a full-time employer yet who has NOT offered DCPC courses for their full time drivers. I take it there are some minnows out in the sticks who are refusing to have anything to do with it then?
i know most are offering but not all are paying, they have no obligation to pay for it, it is down to the drivers to obtain the dcpc not the employers to get it for them, that was what i was saying.
you were implying because you are an agency driver you were different than employed drivers when in fact you are no different, but it sounds like you might be self employed being able to claim mileage where as an employed driver could not claim any mileage
I’m PAYE with no assignment being over 40% of my working year. This means all my assignments are temporary, and claimable for mileage.
So far this past year since signing up, I’ve actually rotated among some 4 firms over 10+ locations, which HMRC assure me is OK to claim mileage on.
I bunged in an expense last week for replacing my digicard, but I’ve not had that OK’ed yet. These things not being automatic is what’s given me my doubts over if any old training is claimable, or onlyl certain types…
I’m considered full time for the agency rather than self employed via any client.
Has any agency bod out there got such a “training” claim in yet?
Winseer:
How many accountancy firms out there can re-assure me and others that whatever is paid out in fees, time & travel in getting to the course running the 35 hours is fully-offsettable for tax?
I spose you mean "umbrella accountancy firms"? ............. if thats the case, I dont know you`d be better off asking them directly
If your full fat, do your own books, chuck em at the accountant once a year type of S/E driver, than you can probably claim/offset most items of training against your tax bill
wildfire:
i know most are offering but not all are paying, they have no obligation to pay for it, it is down to the drivers to obtain the dcpc not the employers to get it for them, that was what i was saying.
Whilst you are correct, there is nothing to say an employer must pay for his employees DCPC, there is law to say an employer must train his employees to use the equiptment they have to, and train them to do the job they have to do. In my experience, not many even meet these basic requirements. And thats why i think anyone sacked for having no DCPC (if it runs out whilst employed) will have a field day at an industrial tribunal.
As regards the OP’s question, i’m suprised that a ‘self employed’ person who comes across as so financially savvy does not know something so basic like training cost is (as others have said) 100% a tax deductable expense.
This 45 ppm malarkey is a complete travesty and a tax on our…oh, hang on. Thats the DCPC. As you where !!!
