Days total driving hours

Hi all,
Could someone please tell me, when on a journey and stuck in a long traffic jam and the wheels are not turning does that time contribute to the days driving time even though it does not register on the taco.
Thanks for any answer in advance.

I think you’ll find it does…

Bit of a bummer that tachos don’t have ( Stuck in Traffic Jam ) button… get a lot more hours done if that was the case

No, it will be recorded as other work, myself
I would select p.o.a or a break although not strictly legal for either, rules are in place for a reason to be either bent or broken.

No, it will be recorded as other work, myself
I would select p.o.a or a break although not strictly legal for either, rules are in place for a reason to be either bent or broken.

It counts as whatever the tachograph records it as, it won’t record it as driving as you are not driving

jjmorris1960:
Hi all,
Could someone please tell me, when on a journey and stuck in a long traffic jam and the wheels are not turning does that time contribute to the days driving time even though it does not register on the taco.
Thanks for any answer in advance.

No, you’ll notice when you first pull up that your tachograph will be displaying a steering wheel symbol, after a few seconds this will change into the crossed hammers symbol. From that point on a modern truck, and after completion of the current calendar minute on earlier digital tachographs, driving activity is paused and the clock stops ticking, so to speak.

If it’s a digi tacho then whatever it says is your driving time, regardless of whether it’s stop start :grimacing:

I am on an analogue tacho and I use the Trucktimer app and have it set for digi tacho mode, this reverts to other work after a set (cant remember the time) amount of time, 3 minutes I think then it reverts to other work.
I go by this, if the app is wrong I am screwed :laughing: :laughing:
Luckily I very rarely max thankfully :wink:

jjmorris1960:
Hi all,
Could someone please tell me, when on a journey and stuck in a long traffic jam and the wheels are not turning does that time contribute to the days driving time even though it does not register on the taco.
Thanks for any answer in advance.

Assuming you’re on EU regulations the time stopped would be recorded as other work, for the EU regulations driving time is defined as time recorded by the tachograph as driving.

If you’re on domestic regulations time stuck in a traffic jam would count as driving time.

I think I am right in saying that whatever the mode selected was before driving commenced would be the mode recorded when the vehicle movement stopped … but I stand to be corrected

The digital tacho in my truck switches from ‘driving’ to ‘other work’ during the times I am stationary in traffic.

alphonsohall:
The digital tacho in my truck switches from ‘driving’ to ‘other work’ during the times I am stationary in traffic.

If you have been on break then drove and not selected other work would it still record other work during stops?

Digital tachographs automatically change to other work when the vehicle stops moving.

tachograph:
Digital tachographs automatically change to other work when the vehicle stops moving.

Thank you - I learnt something new :smiley:

I’m sure I’ve read somewhere that a digital tacho doesn’t change its over from driving to other work in stationary traffic only when the hand brake is applied and some don’t do it instantly…ie clicks over within 1 - 2 minutes… ?

If you’ve got an analogue tacho about the only way you can work this out is to put a simple countdown timer in a prominent position and get into the habit of using it all the time, i found the ‘‘Big Time’’ kitchen countdown timers to be as good as anything for this purpose.

Luckily with an analogue as soon as you stop moving its not recording drive time, unlike the first gen digi’s which could add time up at an astonishing rate in traffic, hence why you see some drivers leave a huge gap in front and only move up the jam when they can cover a reasonable distance and try to keep moving without coming to a halt…
…mind you they could be clocking some nice ‘scenery’ beside them instead… :smiling_imp:

Harry Monk has it spot on.

Swampey2418:
I’m sure I’ve read somewhere that a digital tacho doesn’t change its over from driving to other work in stationary traffic only when the hand brake is applied and some don’t do it instantly…ie clicks over within 1 - 2 minutes… ?

The hand brake has nothing to do with it, when the vehicle stops moving a digital tachograph will automatically change to other work.

When a digital tachographs automatically changes it doesn’t always change immediately, type 1 digital tachographs will record the full minute as driving when you stop, type 2 digital tachographs will record whatever activity takes up the biggest part of the minute.

Re, driving time, the digi tacho driver part does not record all driving as driving, especially in stop start traffic, I did a print out of some driving which included a bit of stop start traffic on the motorway and the driver part didn’t record all the driving activity.
The vehicle speed trace in my opinion recorded approx. 2hrs 25mins driving, but the driver display was showing 2hrs 10mins driving, seems to me on a daily basis the tacho is just deducting a certain percentage of driving to keep every one happy!

when i had in infringement for 5hr 32m driving without a break, i thought there would have been more time allocated to other work whilst in a traffic queue. Seemed only need to move for a few seconds, and that was rounded up to a minute. I think this was my worst day in terms of infringements, could have been worse, but i got my 15m break in for 6 hour rule, just, Only reason there was additional driving after 5h 32m when i took break is because I got to delivery point and said I can’t move until after 45 minutes on break, they said move it now, we need it on a bay to unload. One manager suggested pulling the card