Davies Int. Southampton. With photos (Part 1)

Sorry to break up the rural affairs, it may give Buzzer a chance to hide the chalots/beetroot before they all dissapear over the border! one off the internet,

Evening Buzzer,

Well what a day, got all our tups cashed with the top price of £7200 then £4000,1200,900x2,800,300 so very pleased. Two years hard work has finally paid off and makes all the effort worth while.
Top price today was £92,000 so we’ve got a bit to go to catch up the top men, but it’s something to aim for and will require a lot more investment.

Cheers Wrighty.

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Did He just say £92000■■?

ERF MAN:
Did He just say £92000■■?

Yes that’s right £92000 usually high prices like that are paid by syndicates of three or four breeders, but he was bought by an individual who obviously thinks he’s value for money…

Cheers Wrighty.

wrighty:

ERF MAN:
Did He just say £92000■■?

Yes that’s right £92000 usually high prices like that are paid by syndicates of three or four breeders, but he was bought by an individual who obviously thinks he’s value for money…

Cheers Wrighty.

That tups lipstick is going to be a bit sore to get that money back!

Am I reading this right? £92,000.00 for a sheep■■? One single sheep??!! :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

I would have thought you could by a whole field of sheep plus the land as well for £92k!! Seriously?? Ninety two thousand pounds for one sheep??

bullitt:
Am I reading this right? £92,000.00 for a sheep■■? One single sheep??!! :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

I would have thought you could by a whole field of sheep plus the land as well for £92k!! Seriously?? Ninety two thousand pounds for one sheep??

Bullitt even though I am from farming roots I still find prices like that hard to believe but then there are farmers who specialise in producing top breeding stock and this is also the case in the beef trade and at the end of the day what does not make the perfect breeder that can be sold for loads of cash still have there commercial value in meat so really its a win win scenario its just getting the perfect one, Buzzer.

Buzzer:

bullitt:
Am I reading this right? £92,000.00 for a sheep■■? One single sheep??!! :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

I would have thought you could by a whole field of sheep plus the land as well for £92k!! Seriously?? Ninety two thousand pounds for one sheep??

Bullitt even though I am from farming roots I still find prices like that hard to believe but then there are farmers who specialise in producing top breeding stock and this is also the case in the beef trade and at the end of the day what does not make the perfect breeder that can be sold for loads of cash still have there commercial value in meat so really its a win win scenario its just getting the perfect one, Buzzer.

All paid for out of subsidies, something the haulage industry has never had access to Buzzer as well you know ! Cheers Bewick.

Bewick:

Buzzer:

bullitt:
Am I reading this right? £92,000.00 for a sheep■■? One single sheep??!! :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

I would have thought you could by a whole field of sheep plus the land as well for £92k!! Seriously?? Ninety two thousand pounds for one sheep??

Bullitt even though I am from farming roots I still find prices like that hard to believe but then there are farmers who specialise in producing top breeding stock and this is also the case in the beef trade and at the end of the day what does not make the perfect breeder that can be sold for loads of cash still have there commercial value in meat so really its a win win scenario its just getting the perfect one, Buzzer.

All paid for out of subsidies, something the haulage industry has never had access to Buzzer as well you know ! Cheers Bewick.

I think you’ll find Bewick it is years of expertise and hard work that have got the top sheep breeders where they are,some of them have been selling tups for years long before subsidies were ever thought of. I know one breeder who has spent big money for a lot of years, and he is just starting to sell tups at reasonable money and guess what… he has a lot of static caravans in the Lake district.
Also in the world of pedigree cattle breeding as in the limousins that we breed, the big prices are not paid by farmers but by people who have made their fortunes elsewhere, A W Jenkinson as i’m sure you will know has made his fortune out of road haulage and he spends thousands on cattle every year.

Cheers Wrighty.

wrighty:

Bewick:

Buzzer:

bullitt:
Am I reading this right? £92,000.00 for a sheep■■? One single sheep??!! :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

I would have thought you could by a whole field of sheep plus the land as well for £92k!! Seriously?? Ninety two thousand pounds for one sheep??

Bullitt even though I am from farming roots I still find prices like that hard to believe but then there are farmers who specialise in producing top breeding stock and this is also the case in the beef trade and at the end of the day what does not make the perfect breeder that can be sold for loads of cash still have there commercial value in meat so really its a win win scenario its just getting the perfect one, Buzzer.

All paid for out of subsidies, something the haulage industry has never had access to Buzzer as well you know ! Cheers Bewick.

I think you’ll find Bewick it is years of expertise and hard work that have got the top sheep breeders where they are,some of them have been selling tups for years long before subsidies were ever thought of. I know one breeder who has spent big money for a lot of years, and he is just starting to sell tups at reasonable money and guess what… he has a lot of static caravans in the Lake district.
Also in the world of pedigree cattle breeding as in the limousins that we breed, the big prices are not paid by farmers but by people who have made their fortunes elsewhere, A W Jenkinson as i’m sure you will know has made his fortune out of road haulage and he spends thousands on cattle every year.

Cheers Wrighty.

Fair enough Wrighty, I spent many school holidays on a Fell farm near Ullswater( Herdwicks and Swaledale X’s) as a lad and I’ve many relatives within the farming community and understand their problems, and yours!, and of course I acknowledge that there are “Gentleman” farmers such as AWJ but he and his family weren’t always in that fortunate position being Lowther Estate tenants ! All I am saying is take away all farming subsidies and level the playing field with other industries such as Road haulage and the Fells and Dales would be echoing with screams of financial pain ! All the best in your endeavours, Bewick.

Wrighty i am pleased for draw for your tubs however as a complete outsider the price of the prize tup/s is beyond comprehension ,why do they want perfection, as you and i know once the tups on his working round ,some ewes could have more than one colour on their rear ,how much difference are the lambs from one to another when the ewes are up in the hills.

i suspect after being tupped ,one flock of sheep look like another to the layman, could someone say yes, those lambs came from my prize 90.000 odd tup… im just asking ,not trying to provoke at all, its just, yes, i can see with a prize bull he may not have so many offspring. and husbandry will be more at home… i have carired thousands of slaughtered lambs like hundreds of drivers and been in lots of chill rooms in abitors when they are all strung up ready to load they all look the same.

To me it seems a false economy to pay that for the production of meat, for slaughter they are not going to earn money racing…only the price of LAMB meat we do not eat sheep [mutton] in this country why to expensive, another export…the people blame the supermarkets for inflated prices ,but blimey ,i do not get it…new Zealand lamb is cheaper than our own. i can see why now… no more chops for me.be scrag -end.lol pdb

Oh! PBD we are going to get into some heavy argument here with the mention of New Zealand lamb which without doubt is far tastier than our home grown lamb and cheaper too !! how can they rear and transport their product 14.000 miles and still be cheaper and more tasty than the UK lamb ? The sooner we are free from the EU and able to renew our trade with our former commonwealth friends the better then our subsidised UK farmers will have to up their game to compete, fair do’s I say ! Cheers Bewick.

Interesting bit of banter on here tonight visa vie the subsidies granted to farmers and landowners the secondary is an under estimated number, my county council for instance apparently gets £250,000 a year in subsidies and they really don’t have a clue about farming and all this land was accumulated with tax payers money in the first place, then you have foreign investors buying up agricultural land with no intention of working the land just in the same way they are buying up London property, to them its just an investment opportunity and one thing for sure is they are not making any more land.
Having been involved in transport most of my life I agree with Bewick on this one, they say if farming did not have these subsidies the food would be too expensive for the general public to afford, having said that a lot are eating cheap crap food anyway supplied by the supermarkets for the masses, those of us who have been privileged enough to have had good food would be hard pressed to eat a low quality product, we may have less of the good stuff but we would still chose that over the crap on offer else ware.
To sum up my farming endeavours you cannot compare them to wrighty’s as I am doing it as a hobby where as he is trying to make a living at it and driving a truck as well to make it work. I know every one has a choice in what path they follow but in farming you usually find it’s in the blood having been brought up with it. We shall see what happens when and if we ever do leave the European setup but one thing is for sure when they try and take those payments away from the French look out, the whole country will come to a stand still for sure creating huge chaos everywhere.
Do hope I have not taken to one side too much here tonight but I can see both sides of the argument so lets call it a draw lads, Buzzer.

Bewick I agree the farming world would be a far better place without subsidies, but until we can dictate the price of our own produce and not the supermarkets it will never happen.
PDB the world of sheep sales is a very fickle one a perfectly bred tup can make little money if no one is interested in him, where as one that has two men battling it out to be top dog can carry on bidding until one see’s sense by which time they have spent thousands.

Cheers Wrighty.

wrighty:
Bewick I agree the farming world would be a far better place without subsidies, but until we can dictate the price of our own produce and not the supermarkets it will never happen.
PDB the world of sheep sales is a very fickle one a perfectly bred tup can make little money if no one is interested in him, where as one that has two men battling it out to be top dog can carry on bidding until one see’s sense by which time they have spent thousands.

Cheers Wrighty.

Wrighty the same can be said at many a Saturday farm sale when a long time farmer packs up especially if it was a place where the kit was well looked after, seen many an item make nearly new price at these events chaps just get carried away and woman are worse than the men.
What you have to do is fix a maximum price in your head as to what you want to pay and don’t exceed it, hard as it is when you get carried away in the moment.
Just goes to show you sold several tups to come to the same money as the one you bought in, it just frightens me a bit that it might break a leg or something, cheers Buzzer.

Yes good points made by all, especial bidders getting carried away and paying silly money i have never made a bid for anything, i know years ago i paid over the odds for a shag but that was mickey mouse money [FORIGEN] and normly came away with a extra bonus ,some of them girls should have been drenched ,then put in a sheep dip…
Buzzer you will be starting a war with the lankashire /yorkshire contingent eating “Welsh” lamb, is it salt marsh…so long asthe mint sauce is local you should be on safer ground…
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i must say your yard is a credit to you, funny enough in my time in transport if the boss/haulier had a nice tidy yard ,the kit and job was normally good, so it goes hand in hand…

Evening Buzzer

Well it’s been a busy three days up ere tup sales Thursday then getting cattle into the sheds this last couple of days, in between changing tup colours(going from yellow to green) so ready for a rest. Back to work tomorrow up to Aspatria in the morning for 8am then back to Lancaster for a Foston in the afternoon.
This has been an exceptional year for us tup wise, spent 10k and drew a total of 17.5k in sales which doesn’t happen very often. Our purchase is insured for three months just in case he breaks a leg or dies but as with all insurance it’s a con, he was insured on day one for 10k but that decreases day by day so if he dies on day 90 you wont get the full value but as you know with livestock every day they’re alive is a bonus…

Cheers Wrighty.

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A bit o transport foree all, summer gone winter’s ■■■■■ so don’t 4 get the clocks go back 2 nite, Buzzer.

Buzzer:
A bit o transport foree all, summer gone winter’s ■■■■■ so don’t 4 get the clocks go back 2 nite, Buzzer.

Thanks for the reminder John, Mappo won’t worry because when he was doing continental he was always winding the clock back ! :blush: :blush:
But not when he was on for you.

Regards to you and the Boss,enjoy your lamb tomorrow.

Wrighty, was alongside one of the lads on Friday morning at Junction 9 M40,with a Bassetts tautliner on,knew it wasn’t you as you were at the sales,well done to you and Alice for a good result with the tups.

Regards
Richard

Busy today round the house and garden cleaned up all the leaves but lots more to come yet, put them under the cattle, then litter them up ably assisted by the boss ( action shot ) below then mowed the lawn then gave the chicken there corn an everyday thing so I can do a head count to make sure they are all there and now just sitting down with a well earned cup of tea watching a bit of sport Saint’s V Chelsea waiting for me roast lamb dinner a little later sorted. Buzzer.

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