muckles:
I think a GV9 is an immediate prohibition and a PG9 is a delayed prohibition
PG9 is just the new name for what used to be a GV9, an immediate prohibition. A delayed prohibition is a PG9(D).
Is this a new thing or is my memory playing tricks with me?
Many years ago I was stopped by a VOSA chap, had the police with him as it was the days before they could stop you.
He’d spotted something wrong with my trailer, after checking it out, he gave me a delayed prohibition with enough time for me to do my delivery and get back to the Depot. I’m sure it was a PG9.
They will issues either a GV9 or PG9. They are the same thing.
A delayed prohibition will be as already said GV9(D) or PG9(D) and the nature of the delay will be described.
You also get an ‘S’ marked prohibition which means a serious failure of the operators maintenance regime.
Either way - it is not a good thing to get any form of prohibition. One driver causing a prohibition to be issued can cause the rest of the fleet to become a target for VOSA due to the OCRS score.
shep532:
They will issues either a GV9 or PG9. They are the same thing.
A delayed prohibition will be as already said GV9(D) or PG9(D) and the nature of the delay will be described.
You also get an ‘S’ marked prohibition which means a serious failure of the operators maintenance regime.
Either way - it is not a good thing to get any form of prohibition. One driver causing a prohibition to be issued can cause the rest of the fleet to become a target for VOSA due to the OCRS score.
Are maybe what happened was I got a PG9(D) and assumed as it wasn’t a GV9, PG9 meant delayed.
It is the only one I’ve had. Sadly for my boss at the time it was for a ferry trailer I’d picked up off the docks that morning he didn’t own it and according to the VOSA chap, the fault was not something I could have been expected to see during my walk round check. Although I probably would have heard it if I’d had my window down and music on a lower volume.
shep532:
They will issues either a GV9 or PG9. They are the same thing.
A delayed prohibition will be as already said GV9(D) or PG9(D) and the nature of the delay will be described.
You also get an ‘S’ marked prohibition which means a serious failure of the operators maintenance regime.
Either way - it is not a good thing to get any form of prohibition. One driver causing a prohibition to be issued can cause the rest of the fleet to become a target for VOSA due to the OCRS score.
Are maybe what happened was I got a PG9(D) and assumed as it wasn’t a GV9, PG9 meant delayed.
It is the only one I’ve had. Sadly for my boss at the time it was for a ferry trailer I’d picked up off the docks that morning he didn’t own it and according to the VOSA chap, the fault was not something I could have been expected to see during my walk round check. Although I probably would have heard it if I’d had my window down and music on a lower volume.
Cheers learned something.
NO WAY! A DCPC Trainer posted some information and a driver said “Cheers learned something!”. Is somebody winding me up? Is this a first? I gotta print this page
shep532:
They will issues either a GV9 or PG9. They are the same thing.
A delayed prohibition will be as already said GV9(D) or PG9(D) and the nature of the delay will be described.
You also get an ‘S’ marked prohibition which means a serious failure of the operators maintenance regime.
Either way - it is not a good thing to get any form of prohibition. One driver causing a prohibition to be issued can cause the rest of the fleet to become a target for VOSA due to the OCRS score.
Are maybe what happened was I got a PG9(D) and assumed as it wasn’t a GV9, PG9 meant delayed.
It is the only one I’ve had. Sadly for my boss at the time it was for a ferry trailer I’d picked up off the docks that morning he didn’t own it and according to the VOSA chap, the fault was not something I could have been expected to see during my walk round check. Although I probably would have heard it if I’d had my window down and music on a lower volume.
Cheers learned something.
NO WAY! A DCPC Trainer posted some information and a driver said “Cheers learned something!”. Is somebody winding me up? Is this a first? I gotta print this page
Don’t get too excited Shep, Muckles is just one of lifes nice guys who obviously felt a bit sorry for you and the mountain you’re trying to move!
shep532:
They will issues either a GV9 or PG9. They are the same thing.
A delayed prohibition will be as already said GV9(D) or PG9(D) and the nature of the delay will be described.
You also get an ‘S’ marked prohibition which means a serious failure of the operators maintenance regime.
Either way - it is not a good thing to get any form of prohibition. One driver causing a prohibition to be issued can cause the rest of the fleet to become a target for VOSA due to the OCRS score.
Are maybe what happened was I got a PG9(D) and assumed as it wasn’t a GV9, PG9 meant delayed.
It is the only one I’ve had. Sadly for my boss at the time it was for a ferry trailer I’d picked up off the docks that morning he didn’t own it and according to the VOSA chap, the fault was not something I could have been expected to see during my walk round check. Although I probably would have heard it if I’d had my window down and music on a lower volume.
Cheers learned something.
NO WAY! A DCPC Trainer posted some information and a driver said “Cheers learned something!”. Is somebody winding me up? Is this a first? I gotta print this page
Don’t get too excited Shep, Muckles is just one of lifes nice guys who obviously felt a bit sorry for you and the mountain you’re trying to move!
Damm been rumbled,
Although Shep if you pay my traveling expenses and accommodation I’ll turn up on your DCPC courses and say things like “wow! learned something there!” and “Never knew that!” so you can feel that there is actually some point in getting up in the morning to stand in front of a load of drivers.
Depending on interpretation…
I’m always surprised it’s never made direct reference to whether the obstruction is directly attached to the windscreen or set back. On this basis actually using the manufacturer supplied cupholder for your thermos mug on some models would be a PG9.
It also seems to say half-closed curtains as beloved by the blinged up brigade are ok as long as you can see your mirrors. Therefore a dash table by the same standards should be made ok if you have a front mirror fitted.
Depending on interpretation…
I’m always surprised it’s never made direct reference to whether the obstruction is directly attached to the windscreen or set back. On this basis actually using the manufacturer supplied cupholder for your thermos mug on some models would be a PG9.
It also seems to say half-closed curtains as beloved by the blinged up brigade are ok as long as you can see your mirrors. Therefore a dash table by the same standards should be made ok if you have a front mirror fitted.
I have heard of VOSA doing that. Moaning about a table then deciding because there is a mirror fitted it’s OK. I suppose it’s all about whether something does obstruct vision or not
muckles:
Although Shep if you pay my traveling expenses and accommodation I’ll turn up on your DCPC courses and say things like “wow! learned something there!” and “Never knew that!” so you can feel that there is actually some point in getting up in the morning to stand in front of a load of drivers.
You’re on … Can you make Saturday? I’ve got 15 tipper drivers
muckles:
Although Shep if you pay my traveling expenses and accommodation I’ll turn up on your DCPC courses and say things like “wow! learned something there!” and “Never knew that!” so you can feel that there is actually some point in getting up in the morning to stand in front of a load of drivers.
You’re on … Can you make Saturday? I’ve got 15 tipper drivers
Don’t do the course at your home then… they’ll break all your mirrors!