stevieboy308:
The average livestock driver will run rings around the average general driver.everyone makes mistakes, everyone.
+1
Although every load is a living thing, and subject to the forces applied to it I reckon first trip out with a full load of porkers is going to be very educational and I don, t mean a hen night in Newcastle.
weeto:
Contraflow:
nick2008:
well there’s only one thing that makes a wagon go over .and as it’s not happening every time a wagon goes through that roundabout it surly can only be speed+1
No such thing as a dangerous roundabout.
The one on the new stretch of the A63 coming out of Leeds was, so they removed the adverse negative camber because they had so many roll overs on it!
I’m genuinely surprised that the “roundabouts” at the Stourton exit on the M1 (Arla) haven’t had a lot more roll overs. There are horrible adverse cambers on both the top one and bottom one if you’ve come from the north and are heading for Royal Mai RDC. 
Dipper_Dave:
stevieboy308:
The average livestock driver will run rings around the average general driver.everyone makes mistakes, everyone.
+1
Although every load is a living thing, and subject to the forces applied to it I reckon first trip out with a full load of porkers is going to be very educational and I don, t mean a hen night in Newcastle.
So tell us what happened. Pictures appreciated…
Hiya the roundabout between Stoke and Uttoxeter(A50) must be in with some recognition with roll overs.
it seems to have caught a few drivers out in the last 30 years.
John
I got caught out here once. I was lost, it was dark and I was looking at my sat nav. No traffic lights so I assumed I’d got right of way over vehicles entering the island. The artic steaming down the slip road from the M621 showed me he actually had right of way.
Very close call. My fault of course, the give way signs are clear to see but like I said, I had multiple distractions at exactly the wrong time.
Terry T:
I got caught out here once. I was lost, it was dark and I was looking at my sat nav. No traffic lights so I assumed I’d got right of way over vehicles entering the island. The artic steaming down the slip road from the M621 showed me he actually had right of way.Very close call. My fault of course, the give way signs are clear to see but like I said, I had multiple distractions at exactly the wrong time.
This happens daily,either the ones coming from the m621 think they have to stop and get rear ended or the ones coming from the right think they have right if way.
Then the arrows are worn off the surface for the slip on lane to the m621 and to go right to stourton so you get people and mostly truckers going right in left hand lane and cutting someone up.
The whole area near there needs sorting as getting out of the container base is a bloody nightmare at times as well and trucks just have no choice as to go for it and get blasted with horns or wait for a container truck coming round to slow the traffic to give you that little gap, 4pm -6pm daily is just mental and needs sorting.
Terry T:
I got caught out here once. I was lost, it was dark and I was looking at my sat nav. No traffic lights so I assumed I’d got right of way over vehicles entering the island. The artic steaming down the slip road from the M621 showed me he actually had right of way.Very close call. My fault of course, the give way signs are clear to see but like I said, I had multiple distractions at exactly the wrong time.
That rbt is a fatality waiting to happen there. Really there is no need to have the rbt give way to traffic on the slip road as there is very little traffic that comes round there - only from the container base and the industrial area at Stourton. Everything else is going down the M1 or cutting across to the M1 northbound or towards Rothwell. They could put in a traditional give way at the bottom of the slip road and as you have good visibility to underneath the M621 well before you get to the line you would rarely need to stop and be able to keep it rolling. This would greatly help those truckers coming round from Stourton as they wouldn’t need to sit 50 yards back from the line anymore in order to be able to see stuff coming down the slip road out of the passenger side window, which is the current issue with the give way line on the rbt itself.
threewheelsonmywagon:
stevieboy308:
The average livestock driver will run rings around the average general driver.In view of the fact that this thread is about a livestock lorry turning over on a roundabout, you might want to reconsider your comments
nope
Conor:
weeto:
making it very dangerous for trucks to negotiate at a reasonable speedAnd there, ladies and gentlemen, we have the cause for the accident - another ■■■ driving too quickly.
an artic can have the trailer wheels in to the next lane.
So no different than it has been for the last 20 years then?
The roundabout doesn’t need an adverse camber warning. Any supposed professional truck driver would know that the camber usually changes on a roundabout and negotiate it accordingly. This supposed professional didn’t and paid the price. I have absolutely zero sympathy for anyone who tips a wagon over on a roundabout. It is entirely their own fault.
Going by your stupid statement I should’ve been done for driving without due care and attention then when I went over on the Tinsley viaduct roundabout where you get on the M1 N/B even though the accident was fully investigated by the police etc. I was doing 15mph when I went over on a clear day with dry conditions. I was carrying 3 packs of wooden slates the length of the trailer for Montrecon in Doncaster and the load was still strapped to the bed when they righted the truck and trailer. But I suppose in your world it’s always the drivers fault
weeto:
Contraflow:
nick2008:
well there’s only one thing that makes a wagon go over .and as it’s not happening every time a wagon goes through that roundabout it surly can only be speed+1
No such thing as a dangerous roundabout.
The one on the new stretch of the A63 coming out of Leeds was, so they removed the adverse negative camber because they had so many roll overs on it!
I’m not familiar with the area… but I’m willing to bet my house that the vast majority of lorries managed to traverse this “death trap killer murderous roundabout” without having a lie down in the in the middle of the road.
No such thing as a dangerous roundabout.
Sumsmeister:
Dipper_Dave:
stevieboy308:
The average livestock driver will run rings around the average general driver.everyone makes mistakes, everyone.
+1
Although every load is a living thing, and subject to the forces applied to it I reckon first trip out with a full load of porkers is going to be very educational and I don, t mean a hen night in Newcastle.So tell us what happened. Pictures appreciated…
Sorry no pictures available, suffice to say when a group of ladies of a certain weight get together and I ask them why they don’t step away from the fridge more often its not beyond the realms of probability that I find myself in A & E with my camera phone shoved up my jacksie…
Contraflow:
weeto:
Contraflow:
nick2008:
well there’s only one thing that makes a wagon go over .and as it’s not happening every time a wagon goes through that roundabout it surly can only be speed+1
No such thing as a dangerous roundabout.
The one on the new stretch of the A63 coming out of Leeds was, so they removed the adverse negative camber because they had so many roll overs on it!
I’m not familiar with the area… but I’m willing to bet my house that the vast majority of lorries managed to traverse this “death trap killer murderous roundabout” without having a lie down in the in the middle of the road.
No such thing as a dangerous roundabout.
Quite so!
As the firm in question don’t seem to have too many qualms about what speed their limiters are set at, I’ve drawn my own conclusions
Dipper_Dave:
Sumsmeister:
Dipper_Dave:
stevieboy308:
The average livestock driver will run rings around the average general driver.everyone makes mistakes, everyone.
+1
Although every load is a living thing, and subject to the forces applied to it I reckon first trip out with a full load of porkers is going to be very educational and I don, t mean a hen night in Newcastle.So tell us what happened. Pictures appreciated…
Sorry no pictures available, suffice to say when a group of ladies of a certain weight get together and I ask them why they don’t step away from the fridge more often its not beyond the realms of probability that I find myself in A & E with my camera phone shoved up my jacksie…
Get your beer goggles on…
(I’d rather not be getting my coat instead…) 
What most of TN CSI appear to have missed is the bit where it says the lorry went over after a collision with a bread lorry ! So speed might not be the cause 
Winseer:
Dipper_Dave:
Sumsmeister:
Dipper_Dave:
stevieboy308:
The average livestock driver will run rings around the average general driver.everyone makes mistakes, everyone.
+1
Although every load is a living thing, and subject to the forces applied to it I reckon first trip out with a full load of porkers is going to be very educational and I don, t mean a hen night in Newcastle.So tell us what happened. Pictures appreciated…
Sorry no pictures available, suffice to say when a group of ladies of a certain weight get together and I ask them why they don’t step away from the fridge more often its not beyond the realms of probability that I find myself in A & E with my camera phone shoved up my jacksie…
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Get your beer goggles on…
(I’d rather not be getting my coat instead…)
■■■■ me it looks like a club 18-30s pub crawl in Shagaluf
Denis F:
What most of TN CSI appear to have missed is the bit where it says the lorry went over after a collision with a bread lorry ! So speed might not be the cause
That bit is incorrect, the pig wagon clipped the rear end of the bread wagon whilst it was going over, the bread wagon was traveling in the opposite direction.
Denis F:
What most of TN CSI appear to have missed is the bit where it says the lorry went over after a collision with a bread lorry ! So speed might not be the cause
Looking at the pics, i’d say the collision with the bread wagon occurred mid roll. But pics can be misleading!
There are a number of potential reasons to what caused this.
Everybody who’s driven a truck for any length of time has gone round a corner or island and said to themselves, that was a bit quick, you got lucky, if it was down to speed and so long as it wasn’t being driven like a ■■■■, then this dude didn’t get lucky. A tripple decker at full weight will be less forgiving than the majority of trucks on the road.
Just off the A1 at Newark, bit.ly/1qvAHkv
I looks to be clear, you gun it and a car just appears out of nowhere from the A46 side and you never saw it enter the r-a-b because of all the shubbery in the middle of it.
This one at Prudhoe has a bad camber, a really bad one.
