Power steering intermittently fails. So, you’ll be driving along, perhaps going around a roundabout / tight corner, and all of a sudden the power steering just stops working, makes a ■■■■ of a noise, and steering goes extremely heavy, then maybe 10 second later it’ll sort itself out and come back on. It happens sporadically and intermittently, often it’s pretty unexpected and causes a momentary loss of control.
Would you consider this a dangerous defect? What would DVSA have to say about it, would it attact a PG9?
Of course losing control going round a roundabout isn’t a dangerous defect 
VOR it until it’s sorted.
Chris1207:
Power steering intermittently fails. So, you’ll be driving along, perhaps going around a roundabout / tight corner, and all of a sudden the power steering just stops working, makes a [zb] of a noise, and steering goes extremely heavy, then maybe 10 second later it’ll sort itself out and come back on. It happens sporadically and intermittently, often it’s pretty unexpected and causes a momentary loss of control.
Would you consider this a dangerous defect? What would DVSA have to say about it, would it attact a PG9?
of course it’s a dangerous defect if you loose steering, defect it and refuse too take it out till fixed
Taking it like that could end with the driver and operator in jail if somebody gets killed on the road, it would be manslaughter or gross negligence.
There would be no defence,Dvsa would know it was faulty.
Yes, that’s dangerous. I’d check the power steering fluid level and top it up if necessary, or get the fitter to do it in the first place, and check for leaks.
Chris1207:
Power steering intermittently fails. So, you’ll be driving along, perhaps going around a roundabout / tight corner, and all of a sudden the power steering just stops working, makes a [zb] of a noise, and steering goes extremely heavy, then maybe 10 second later it’ll sort itself out and come back on. It happens sporadically and intermittently, often it’s pretty unexpected and causes a momentary loss of control.
Would you consider this a dangerous defect? What would DVSA have to say about it, would it attact a PG9?
I have a similar problem. So, you’ll de driving along. perhaps slowing down for a roundabout / tight corner, and all of a sudden the brakes just stop working, they make a [zb] of a noise, and the pedal goes extremely heavy, then maybe 10 seconds later they sort themselves out and come back on. It happens sporadically and intermittently, often it’s pretty unexpected and causes a momentary loss of control.
Would you consider this is a dangerous defect? What would DVSA have to say about it, would it attract a PG9?
Sorry mate, but did you REALLY need to ask ?
Regards. John.
You need to ask whether loss of steering and control at random intervals is a serious defect?
If your load is moving and at random intervals bits of it fall off at roundabouts,would you consider this to be serious?
Seems your more concerned about DVSA issuing you a PG9 than the fact you lose control
Cant help feeling your on a wind up fishing exercise though. No one with a driving license (esp an hgv one) can be this clueless
Unless this is a wind up , it’s frightening to think about who has HGV licences and is on the roads.
Oh come on. Trucks didnt use tk have power steering, and drivers got around roundabouts without troubles then. Have an extra weetabix in the mkrning, and man up.
Crack on drive.
nodding donkey:
Oh come on. Trucks didnt use tk have power steering, and drivers got around roundabouts without troubles then. Have an extra weetabix in the mkrning, and man up.
Crack on drive.
Now you’re definately winding 'em up.
Slight difference in A the size of the steering wheel (MAN excepted) B the steering gearing in non powered lorries, and C the driver’s tackle apparently… 
This is definitely a crack on drive situation.
One of my old mk2 Golf’s had the same problem until I turned into a railway station car park just as it played up and I went into a bollard and that car was then broken for parts after.
mrginge:
This is definitely a crack on drive situation.
One of my old mk2 Golf’s had the same problem until I turned into a railway station car park just as it played up and I went into a bollard and that car was then broken for parts after.
How much did you get for the power steering pump? 
Funny enough that didn’t make it on to the shelf in my garage 
Neither did the front bumper, wing etc on that corner. This was roughly 9yrs ago and I bet some of it is still in the garage and I still own one mk2 and lots of parts have gone on mates mk2’s for beer money so I doubt I made any dollar from it ha.
By the way, I know the answer, and I consider it dangerous, and filled in a defect report saying as much last night… but I fully expect to go into today and have management tell me there’s nothing wrong with it / it’s fine / just drive it.
DVSA’s categorisation of defects document lists at least 2 things wrong with it as immediate prohibitions.
Just wanted to see if you all had the same thoughts, or if i was overreacting. You confirmed my suspicions.
I had this problem years ago when driving a 7.5-tonner for a packaging company near where I live - it was a pre-Atego Merc. It was exactly as you said, the steering going very heavy although I didn’t keep driving long enough to test whether it’d come back on. I had the problem three times and each time I had to call the recovery man out which meant a long wait. The last time, the recovery guy glued the offending part together and said “it won’t come off now - I’ve glued it together with Loctite!”. I thought "is that meant to be reassuring? You can get that in any DIY shop ".
Chris1207:
Would you consider this a dangerous defect? What would DVSA have to say about it, would it attact a PG9?
The haulage industry at its best once again. Yes, it would attract a PG9. It would also potentially attract a maintenance investigation into your employer were DVSA to find out that the vehicle had been in the stated condition for however long previously, and quite rightly so.
Olog Hai:
Chris1207:
Would you consider this a dangerous defect? What would DVSA have to say about it, would it attact a PG9?
The haulage industry at its best once again. Yes, it would attract a PG9. It would also potentially attract a maintenance investigation into your employer were DVSA to find out that the vehicle had been in the stated condition for however long previously, and quite rightly so.
I concur, and the sooner the better tbh !
Some manufacturers seem to think that loss of power steering is not a dangerous defect
dailymail.co.uk/news/article … ering.html
trubster:
Some manufacturers seem to think that loss of power steering is not a dangerous defect
dailymail.co.uk/news/article … ering.html
That’s why Mercedes always used to have big steering wheels, fact!
bestbooties:
That’s why Mercedes always used to have big steering wheels, fact!
I was told the same was applicable to the dustbin lids on MAN’s
Some German regulation?