Can anyone clarify how exactly I can interupt a period of daily rest due to a ferry crossing. Its a topic that came up yesterday between me and a couple of other drivers whilst waiting for out boat at Calais. I know you can now have two movements, totally no more than an hour. I would presume that these movements would have to be shown on your chart so simply taking your card out at the end of the day and then moving on/off the ferry isn’t allowed?
eldor:
I would presume that these movements would have to be shown on your chart so simply taking your card out at the end of the day and then moving on/off the ferry isn’t allowed?
Unless you’ve got a good solicitor 
Leave your card in and show the movements 
montana man:
eldor:
I would presume that these movements would have to be shown on your chart so simply taking your card out at the end of the day and then moving on/off the ferry isn’t allowed?Unless you’ve got a good solicitor
Leave your card in and show the movements
I presume you’d also have to write on the back of the card what you’ve done. I’ve never actually made use of this hence why I dont know how it works. Say for example you arrive at the port and park near the ship waiting to board, can you start your rest period then and it not be cancelled out by you manouvering onto the ship in say 2hrs time? With the Dover-Calais route as an example, can you drive both on at one end, and off at the other end without it cancelling out your daily rest? and if yes to either, am I right in thinking that such a daily rest must total 11hrs and not 9?
eldor:
I presume you’d also have to write on the back of the card what you’ve done.
No
Say for example you arrive at the port and park near the ship waiting to board, can you start your rest period then and it not be cancelled out by you manouvering onto the ship in say 2hrs time?
Yes
With the Dover-Calais route as an example, can you drive both on at one end, and off at the other end without it cancelling out your daily rest?
Yes as long as during a crossing you have access to a bunk or couchette or however it is worded.
and if yes to either, am I right in thinking that such a daily rest must total 11hrs and not 9?
Yes
I stand prepared to be coffeeholiced if not 100% correct
With the Dover-Calais route as an example, can you drive both on at one end, and off at the other end without it cancelling out your daily rest?
Yes as long as during a crossing you have access to a bunk or couchette or however it is worded.
dover calais or dover dunquerqe dont count got this out of vosa in dover
But Norfolk have couchettes!! In the relax lounge and as far as I am concerned, all those seats qualify as couchettes lol
TheBear:
But Norfolk have couchettes!! In the relax lounge and as far as I am concerned, all those seats qualify as couchettes lol
I would have to agree with you Bear
Problem I see with Dover being the lack of anywhere to park up to finish your time off. Can’t see how VOSA can say for sure it doesn’t count as long as you adhere to the drivers regs 
montana man:
eldor:
I presume you’d also have to write on the back of the card what you’ve done.No
Say for example you arrive at the port and park near the ship waiting to board, can you start your rest period then and it not be cancelled out by you manouvering onto the ship in say 2hrs time?
Yes
With the Dover-Calais route as an example, can you drive both on at one end, and off at the other end without it cancelling out your daily rest?
Yes as long as during a crossing you have access to a bunk or couchette or however it is worded.
and if yes to either, am I right in thinking that such a daily rest must total 11hrs and not 9?
Yes
I stand prepared to be coffeeholiced if not 100% correct
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It never hurts to write on the back of the card if you have done any kind of unusual movement such as a ferry crossing.
montana man:
TheBear:
But Norfolk have couchettes!! In the relax lounge and as far as I am concerned, all those seats qualify as couchettes lolI would have to agree with you Bear
Problem I see with Dover being the lack of anywhere to park up to finish your time off. Can’t see how VOSA can say for sure it doesn’t count as long as you adhere to the drivers regs
You can say that again! I left Dover at about 9pm (ish) lastnight and the first services I could get parked in was Oxford and that was on 9:50 driving and 14:40 spread over. I very rarely come through the south and as such have no idea where to park, I normally just go onto industrial estates but I’m not keen on finding them in the dark when time is already very tight and I’m carrying a valuable load.
when ever i take split rest or interupted rest i always write on back of card just to cover yourself and if vosa check discs 6months later you can reflect why you moved. covers you in all directions.
ex muppet:
when ever i take split rest or interupted rest i always write on back of card just to cover yourself and if vosa check discs 6months later you can reflect why you moved. covers you in all directions.
Not a bad idea but then again Start and Finish place should give a huge clue
montana man:
Not a bad idea but then again Start and Finish place should give a huge clue
Normally, I can’t remember what I was doing when the Ministry ask me about one of last week’s charts, let alone one from 5 months and 29 days ago!
Why can’t you say your in the truck bunk on the crossing if the ferry doesn’t have bunks? I would prefer the truck bunk over an over grown chair anyway if nackered. 
Will guess only stow-a-ways are allowed on the truck deck during the crossing.
Another thing I’m not sure about is the “two movements”. What is a movement classed as? Obviously if you’re queueing next to the ship, even though you just drive or back on, its likely going to be more than one or two actual movements with all the stopping and starting etc. Are these two allowed movements actual movements or basically just periods of activity etc?
eldor:
Another thing I’m not sure about is the “two movements”. What is a movement classed as? Obviously if you’re queueing next to the ship, even though you just drive or back on, its likely going to be more than one or two actual movements with all the stopping and starting etc. Are these two allowed movements actual movements or basically just periods of activity etc?
It doesn’t say two movements, it says you may interrupt your rest period twice - there is a difference.
Couple of things to note. The total rest period must be 11 hours, not 11 hours minus the two interruptions. So if you park up at 18:00 interrupt the rest to drive on the ferry - 15 minutes - then again to drive off - 15 minutes your rest period would not finish until 05:30 - 11 hours rest plus 30 minutes for the two interruptions. If you moved off at 05:00, 11 hours after you started your rest, you will not have had the required 11 hours of rest.
One reason you may hear conflicting advice when this topic comes up amongst drivers is because of teh rule changes on April 11, previous to that you could only interrupt once and some drivers are still unaware the rules have changed.
The interruptions should be as short as possible but in any case must not total more than 1 hour.
The rest period will still need to fall into the 24 hour period begining when you resume work after a daily or weekly rest period. So, if you start work at 06:00 the rest period and the time for the movements will need to be completed by 06:00 the foloowing morning.
As has been said you cannot use it on a Dover - Calais crossing, unless you can convince VOSA you stayed in the cab which breaks a whole new set of regulations. You must have access to a bunk or couchette for all parts of the rest and a fancy chair is not a couchette.
One reason you may hear differnt viewpoints on split rest from drivers is that some will still be going by the pre April 11 rules when you could only interupt the rest once
Longwayround:
Why can’t you say your in the truck bunk on the crossing if the ferry doesn’t have bunks?
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