I was on the understanding that if you did 9hrs driving you can extend it to 10hrs twice a week what are the rules for working nights (perm) as ive been told I can extend it more than twice if needed as the company wasn’t tighted into it is this right ■■?
Days, nights, irrelevant - same rules apply…2 x 10 hour extensions of driving time per week only.
I’m guessing the company in question has a workforce or collective agreement in place to ‘opt out’ of the 10 hour maximum shift time (driving & other work) as required by the RT WTD. Meaning you can extend your night shifts beyond 10 hours in length if the opt-out is in place. Of course only 10 hours of the extended night shift(max. twice per week) can be driving time.
so you can do a mixture of driving and other work up to 15 hrs but 10 hours driving max twice a week
Correct - providing the ‘opt out’ is in place… although 15 hours includes rest/breaks and any period of availability (POA). And can only be done as a duty 3 x per week to enable regular daily rests to be taken.
If no opt - out in place then shift time (excluding breaks & POA’s) is limited to 10 hours maximum. I.E. 6 hours driving plus 4 hours other work = max.10 hours, regardless of any breaks & POA, so you could be at work longer than 10 hours, say if you had 1 hour break plus 2 hours on POA = 13 hours.
BUT an overall shift time of 13/15 hours must be observed depending if reduced daily rest available - which of course includes breaks & POA’s!!!
Simples…not!!!
The daily/weekly driving periods for nights are exactly the same as days.
You can drive up-to 9 hours between daily rest periods, this can be extended up-to 10 hours twice a week.
Assuming you have an opt out agreement in place:
You must have a daily rest period of at-least 11 hours completed within the period of 24 hours from the start of the shift, this can be reduced to no less than 9 hours three times between weekly rest periods.
If you don’t have an opt out agreement in place:
If you do any work between 00:00 and 04:00 (01:00 to 05:00 for PSC drivers) you’re legally restricted to 10 hours working time in each 24 hour period, working time does not include breaks or POA.
Daz1970:
Correct - providing the ‘opt out’ is in place… although 15 hours includes rest/breaks and any period of availability (POA). And can only be done as a duty 3 x per week to enable regular daily rests to be taken.
You can have reduced daily rest periods three times between weekly rest periods not three times per week 