Franglais:
How about the evidence that mRNA vaccines were here before conventional vaccines?
The fact they arrived first, suggests to me that they are quicker to develop and be approved.
Franglais:
fact they arrived first, suggests to me that they are quicker
The two quotes above are different. The original specifies more specific information, which you later exclude from your quote and you seem to want to change the meaning of what you said by doing so. It actually looks deliberate because you realised your mistaken claim after the event and tried to justify it in a different way.
I again say that the ability to upscale production is a different concept to the time required to develop and approve. Why don’t you just say: ‘my original quote wasn’t what I meant’, rather than taking out the context to try to give it different meaning?
I appreciate that posts can be made quickly without thinking through properly and the full quote might not have been what you meant, but it is what you wrote. Consider that not everyone reads through the full thread and may not have read all your previous posts (or remember them).
The thread is like an itch that one can’t help scratching (you bring it to the top of the board every other day). Of course similar threads have been moved because the forum is transport related and you are only getting away with this by posting off-topic.
One is a shorter form of the other, yes.
Leaving out a few words was designed to give greater weight to “fact” and “suggest”. Both were in the original post.
If you think that is me trying to pull over your eyes? Carry on.
The FACT that the mRNA vaccines arrived FIRST, SUGGESTS to me that they were QUICKER to be DEVELOPED and APPROVED.
I did quote
“By getting the human body to produce the viral proteins itself, mRNA vaccines cut out some of the manufacturing process and should be easier and quicker to produce than traditional vaccines. ‘In this situation, the major benefit is that it’s easy to produce (and) it will also probably be relatively easy to do an upscaling of production, which of course, is very important if you think about deployment throughout Europe and the world”
Prof. Bekeredjian-Ding, Paul Ehrlich Institut, Bonn.
And I am saying nothing against or extra to that.
Ok, whatever Franglais, I have added as a foe so I won’t have to trawl through the drivel anymore. Not only are you wasting your time but ours too. You present yourself as a caricature of being well-informed, but the reality is that you are somewhat misguided in the conclusions you draw. Good luck in your endeavours, no hard feelings.
Well, the thing is jakethesnake, others could have posted on topic. This way I can open a thread without reading what certain members have to say. Works quite well, that is what it is there for. You carry on posting off-topic, be my guest. Bar quotations in other posts I just won’t read what you have to say.
jakethesnake:
UPDATE. Wife’s PCR come back positive and mine negative. How does that work if its really infectious?
Or maybe I’m still incubating.
There appears to be absolutely no rhyme or reason as to who contracts this.
Because of an estate agent screw up there currently are four adults and a four year old child living in my house, this has been so for the last six months. Three of the adults are vaccinated and two have received the booster. Over the time here we’ve all had to take regular tests on account of the toddler attending nursery and we’ve all at some point tested positive with varying degrees of illness. The unvaccinated one escaped the lightest with only an extremely low grade headache that lasted for two days. In fact the only reason I, sorry, he knew he had Covid was because the test and subsequent tests told him.
jakethesnake:
UPDATE. Wife’s PCR come back positive and mine negative. How does that work if its really infectious?
Or maybe I’m still incubating.
There appears to be absolutely no rhyme or reason as to who contracts this.
Because of an estate agent screw up there currently are four adults and a four year old child living in my house, this has been so for the last six months. Three of the adults are vaccinated and two have received the booster. Over the time here we’ve all had to take regular tests on account of the toddler attending nursery and we’ve all at some point tested positive with varying degrees of illness. The unvaccinated one escaped the lightest with only an extremely low grade headache that lasted for two days. In fact the only reason I, sorry, he knew he had Covid was because the test and subsequent tests told him.
Like I say, no rhyme or reason.
Hope your wife recovers quickly Jake.
Cheers maoster, just like a bad cold at the moment with aches and pains. I tend to agree it is a little strange the way the virus decides who to pick on!!
I spent all day yesterday and all night in close proximity to my wife yet my pcr from yesterday is negative along with another lateral flow test I did this morning.
My cousin back home who is a primary school teacher just caught it recently after being at school in amongst kids for the last two years. She has three kids who have had it twice
yet her husband who lives with them has never caught it!
As I said I may be in the incubation period but other than that as you say no rhyme or reason but it’s highly infectious.
I may be wrong but somewhere, sometime, I read summat, that people who were vaccinated were less likely to get a virus?
Not 100% guaranteed, but less likely…Who knows?
jakethesnake:
Maybe it’s correct some are naturally inmmune?
I don’t think that anyone is immune per se to Covid as it’s a new strain and thus no previous immunity was built. I do however think that some people have an immune system that by luck, genetics or whatever is at it’s absolute peak and thus does what its supposed to do and identifies, isolates and destroys any virus.
I’m certainly no superhuman but I’ve not suffered from any ailment (with the exception of broken bones) since I was in my teens. Note I stated suffered as opposed to caught because it’s my belief that numerous times I’ve woken up (not as a result of alcohol) and felt like I wasn’t firing on all cylinders, but then an hour or so later I’m back to normal. I may well be mistaken but I reckon that I’ve caught a bug, my immune system has done its job and I then carry on as normal.
You may suspect that I’m not a trained medical professional but that’s just my take on it.
Yep, fair enough and a fair possibility.
I like you have never been prone to illness.
Flu once and the odd cold. Like you had a few broken bones but most were self inflicted.
The only thing I would say about the immune system although obviously some work better than others it tends to be far stronger the younger you are and I ain’t no youngster.
My wife contracted Covid a few weeks ago and didnt even know she had it until routine testing picked it up, both myself and my son tested negative five days on the trot. Not sure if the vaccine has helped or not but we are all triple jabbed so maybe this is the reason none of us were really ill with it. Possibly the strain is weakening through the vaccination program and we are now seeing herd immunity? Possibly there was never a real concern about the infectious nature to begin with, good thing is that we seem to be seeing less and less severe cases by the day.
Tested positive this morning! Was beginning to think I was immune. Wife tested positive tuesday and I have done a test everyday and all negative till today.
Good news is wife feels a lot better today and I don’t have any symptoms yet. Still don’t understand why it’s taken a few days for her to infect me■■?
jakethesnake:
Tested positive this morning! Was beginning to think I was immune. Wife tested positive tuesday and I have done a test everyday and all negative till today.
Good news is wife feels a lot better today and I don’t have any symptoms yet. Still don’t understand why it’s taken a few days for her to infect me■■?
There is an incubation period of between 2 to 14 days for symptoms or a test to show you are infected. Chances are that you were infected from day 1 of contact with her. So far my tests have been negative although my wife is infected too.
jakethesnake:
Tested positive this morning! Was beginning to think I was immune. Wife tested positive tuesday and I have done a test everyday and all negative till today.
Good news is wife feels a lot better today and I don’t have any symptoms yet. Still don’t understand why it’s taken a few days for her to infect me■■?
There is an incubation period of between 2 to 14 days for symptoms or a test to show you are infected. Chances are that you were infected from day 1 of contact with her. So far my tests have been negative although my wife is infected too.
Yeah probably right, maybe a bit of brain fog on my part. Just kept thinking about all the people I have heard of who live together and they don’t all catch it.
It doesn’t seem to be very consistent in a few ways.
I was floored yesterday, in bed all day feeling sick and just generally feeling crap. Tried to eat but couldn’t although my wife managed to eat throughout.
Feeling a little better today (day 3) and managed some breakfast. Who know’s what to come but I’ll be glad when it’s over.
It will be a dark day for a couple on here now they have heard that Covid restrictions are about to end and that the order of the day is that we all need to learn to get on with our lives whilst dealing with and living alongside it,.with an element of normality .
How are they going to put their time in now?
No more doom mongering, no more scanning the views of experts.
Train spotting,.stamp collecting maybe?
Maybe start another 10 page thread telling us how a wrong decision was made by the coubtry?..No surely nobody could be THAT petulant.
carryfast-yeti:
:lol:
well i spent last Friday night/Saturday morning in a busy Leicester R.I. A&E Dept…and not one mention of the dreaded ‘C’ word or the ‘V’ word
all i was asked was if i’d recently returned from another Country,and that was it.none of the doctor’s who assessed/examined me did either…so glad it’s being kept alive on here
I spent a day in hospital 2 weeks ago ( tues ) , had a covid test the sat before & me & mrs had to isolate until I went in , then on entry to the hospital had to remove my mask & put one of there’s on , hands disinfected on entry to hospital , then again on entry to the ward
I’ve visited hospital twice since & have been given a mask & worn from entry , waiting & on test being done , all hospital staff , patients were wearing masks
This was Boston / Grantham hospitals , I assume all nhs hospital have the same rules or maybe Leicestershire is different to Lincolnshire
All easy & no problem what so ever , only a issue if you want to make it one
knew he had Covid was because the test and subsequent tests told him.
