Trev_H:
ramone:
Trev_H:
ramone:
Saviem:
Well ramone, much as I love Mr ■■■■■■■■ the bits around his engines were not so great in “driver” terms.If I were doing a hard shift, I must say that the 192hp F86, would be my choice. Quiet, warm, comfortable. No not a barn stormer, but whilst I watched the RR, or 205 drawn tail lights go away up the bank…well I would be listening to my radio, adjusting the heater controls, looking behind me in those big vibration free mirrors, and wriggling my bum on that comfortable cloth seat, (with that modest, but adequate little bunk behind me)!
And when I arrived…well, 22tons minimum payload, easy to manouver comfortable, not tired, and only minutes behind the “big power”, 205, 220, AV760, (sorry, he would be well behind…roaring along in some subterranean gear, on even a modest bank)!!!
Why did British lorry engineers never ever grasp, or even try to identify what it was like to actually try to earn a living from their wares■■?
But sadly the “cowboy”, in this elderley Farmer…well I would have been swopping cogs in gay abandon, like a frustrated TT racer…in my ■■■■■■■ 205, 10sp Fuller Atkinson!!!..and b…r the Radi
Cheerio for now.So on a more level playing field put a 9 speed fuller behind the Rolls ■■■■■■■ Av760 Leyland etc all with similar power would 1 engine stand out or were they much the same?
At about the 220bhp mark they were all pretty even but when it came to hills one stood out ! the Roller, they were very good pullers and dropped little speed, the downside to this was they had a lower top speed than the rest, used a little more fuel and weren’t as reliable as the others, horses for courses I guess. I always thought the 680 Leyland or the 760 AEC’s were good all rounders.
That sounds more down to gearing Trev ,i had a Gardner 320 which romped up the hills but at 60 mph you were really pushing it .
They were geared just a little lower but I think they had to cut down the engine revs on them as well to slow head gasket and piston problems. What I do remember about 220 Rollers was the terrible throttle linkage which had an all or nothing feel to it and made the pump rack bounce which lead to awful kangaroo impressions, the 265, 280,290 rollers didn’t have those problems and were good motors and all very good pullers for their power output.
Well they went full circle when the auto Dafs came out with their fly by wire accelerators ,they were like an on off switch
200 TO 220 BHP so lets keep it down on the real level or the Mighty Manchester 8 cylinder legend will rule the thread 
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