Retired Old ■■■■:
I could well do without you two taking the p*ss out of a poor old pensioner!
My only excuse is that I used to do a bit of motorsport and loved fiddling with everything mechanical.
And the Gardner badge was free of course.
I’m a poor old pensioner as well Casey, with no allotment. 
Cheers Dave.
Another Mini,…and this ones got "■■■■■■■ Power" too !! According to the notice board in front , the enginedevelops 3.500 h.p., - more than enough for you rejuvenated boy racers to control on yourSunday afternoon Gatherings` in deserted shopping mall car parks. 
Dont worry , lads ,..........the engine` is only a mock-up for publicity purposes . 
The “Mini” was on display at a B.C.V.M. Rally a few years ago.
Cheers , cattle wagon man.
cattle wagon man:
Well,…it says " ■■■■■■■ " on the front .
I took this photograph of the pic, on the wall at the Classic Car Museum , Malta.It must be a ruddy big ice cream fridge in that Mini to need a ■■■■■■■ engine to power it
Cheers , cattle wagon man.
I used to take silent generators to ■■■■■■■ at crewe 3cyl kubota engined .
Hey, I read here Always about the N,NH,NT ■■■■■■■ engines. But were the big V engines of ■■■■■■■ used in Britain too.
Not the 903 but those which were used by Krupp. And if… what was the experience with it.
Bye Eric,
tiptop495:
Hey, I read here Always about the N,NH,NT ■■■■■■■ engines. But were the big V engines of ■■■■■■■ used in Britain too.
Not the 903 but those which were used by Krupp. And if… what was the experience with it.Bye Eric,
Plenty of discussion of the ■■■■■■■ V’s here:
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=93348&p=1344306
If the link to that book is still working, it is well worth a read.
5thwheel:
a cracking engine,at Smith of Maddiston,the majority of the fleet were ■■■■■■■ 220,but not a patch on the Big J 240 Percy!!!David
For the time a ■■■■■■■ 220 and a fuller gearbox where a great combination(especially if in a borderer)had one wh malcolms
It was fantastic when your regular drive was a 150 Gardner!
you’re not kidding casey , i went from an s39 . gardner , 12 speed box to an e290 with a fuller box . i thought i’d died and gone to heaven .cheers , dave
rigsby:
you’re not kidding casey , i went from an s39 . gardner , 12 speed box to an e290 with a fuller box . i thought i’d died and gone to heaven .cheers , dave
Now yer talking, a ■■■■ fine bit of equipment. I used to enjoy working with a 290 and a Fuller, keep it up near the red line and it would pull owt anywhere. 
she was a fine old lorry that foden , only did 67mph but pulled like a good un . when it was uprated to38 ton i couldn’t tell the difference , it pulled just as well as ever . it earned me a lot of money .
Good day all
I found this site by accident recently and would just like to say what a great forum you have with the wide range of topics and the knowledge of the members, it’s going to take up a fair bit of my retirement to wade through.
Re ■■■■■■■
Just to add a a different perspective on the type of engine that I owned and operated here in Western Australia from the ■■■■■■■ family it was K19 a 19litre engine that when originally purchased was set at 450bhp I understand it was originally developed as a stationary unit i.e. gen set /marine unit/earthmoving and adapted later to road transport and fitted as mine was in a W model Kenworth prime mover with a 122ton chassis rating , [ the max GCM hwy rating at the time of purchase was 118tons in triple trailer configuration] This engine was extremely reliable and I can only recall one occasion when it failed and that was broken fuel pump drive shaft other than that some 12 years of service 3million plus kilometres and 2 in chassis rebuilds one out of chassis, fuel consumption in triple configuration 1.1km/litre 2trailers 1.3kms/litre I can’t recall doing to much single trailer operation other than desert rig moves when we would load the second trailer on the lead for return journeys.
This engine can be rated at 525hp 600hp or 700hp the latter being twin turbo mine was rated 525hp during the first rebuild at 750000 kms in chassis and I found that was as much as I needed to get maximum engine life reasonable fuel return and with extended service interval filter unit it would start to use a little oil for the last couple of thousand kms .
It’s unlikely this engine would have been used in european operation but I know it was fitted in trucks in the US and Canada but if you had one in a Leyland/Foden /Atkinson whoopee do.
42c in the patio at present might have to stay in the a/c today possibly check out the fridge shortly.
Cheers Dig
Weather’s much about the same here in the Northwest of England, mate!
Thanks mate thats good to know in case I ever want to return home to live I will have the best of both worlds but the cricket team might have improve a tad as I am copping quite a sledging from my Aussi mates lol
Cheers DIG
DIG:
Thanks mate thats good to know in case I ever want to return home to live I will have the best of both worlds but the cricket team might have improve a tad as I am copping quite a sledging from my Aussi mates lolCheers DIG
Hi, nice read on the engine, but no need to gloat about the weather, slipped on my arse coming home from the pub.
Les.
Les believe you me I.m not gloating we lost our power this morning at 1am WA time its still out almost midday here and as we live in a hilly area bush fires are a worry so we have our own generator for powering our water system and its being put to good use at present, one small A/C keeping her indoors coolish and driving the fridges, hope the posteria is not to dented wounds of that nature are usually in a good cause lol.
43c as I type outside 31c where I am in the lounge and freeze your nuts off in the bedroom.
Cheers DIG
I had thought my arthritis was getting worse but I’ve just realised it’s RUST!
Good thread!!!
Just found a survey of 12/1965 in which an overview has been given about progress of stroke-bore-ratio:
1929 1,450
1939 1,344
1951 1,130
1956 0,908
1965 0,800
A-J
Don’t know a lot about bores etc or engines in general but I loved the ■■■■■■■ engine with a twin splitter had one.in a ERF at United transport at Stanlow the only thing I have driven I liked better was a 2stroke Foden but that was purely for the sound mad I know when I have driven all the modern trucks but each to his own
There was a start of a discussion on oversquare ■■■■■■■ in the “AEC V8”-thread, however because of
quite some input out of relevant reports and brochures I decided to give that info here, where it belongs!
In the books of Clessie L. ■■■■■■■ and his son Lyle ■■■■■■■■ there is probably more, but that is something
to re-read/check for me by a glass of …
Happy research and reading! A-J
The fact is making a good truck engine is all about torque not power made by engine speed.In which case the last thing that anyone with any sense would want to do is make a short stroke diesel truck engine.Which probably explains why the 903 for example,let alone the smaller ■■■■■■■ V8’s,were a joke compared to others like the Scania,Cat 3408,and Fiat V8’s.
While the present day clue is that,contrary to the ■■■■■■■ bs contained in the article,when Scania decided to develop their V8 range they ( rightly ) did it by increasing the stroke measurement to 6 inches from the 5.5 inches of the first generation and using a 16.4 litre overall capacity.Thereby using an undersquare bore/stroke ratio.Not vice versa.IE more power at ‘lower’ engine speeds means better efficiency and better durability.
