hello truck net just wanted to know if the ■■■■■■■ 180 engine is a 4 or 6 cylinder & is it turbo diesel they fitted these into the bmc/erf trucks ? any advice or help most helpful thanks j.t
hi i think they were turbos and were straight six ,cos i remenber the Gardner 240 stuck out the back of the cab ,think that was an 8 cylinder ,but it was 40 years since i worked on them ,rob
The original ■■■■■■■ 180 (NH series) from the 1960’s was a straight six of 12.17 litres capacity and didn’t have a turbo fitted. This was basically the same engine as the 205 and 220 versions fitted in most british lorries of that era. (ERF, Atkinson etc)
joetow:
hello truck net just wanted to know if the ■■■■■■■ 180 engine is a 4 or 6 cylinder & is it turbo diesel they fitted these into the bmc/erf trucks ? any advice or help most helpful thanks j.t
I think your referring to the 6 Bta 5.9 litre turbo (6 cylinder ) there’s also a 4 Bta model .
Go on to the old time lorry forum on here and ask Dennis Bewick about ■■■■■■■ 205 , he will give you chapter and verse one said lump
Jim
I think this is the model that the op means long after Bewicks days in transport
My ERF had a ■■■■■■■ 180 turbo diesel and a cracked cylinder head
Paul
Hiya must be a few different 180 ■■■■■■■ engines. the first one i come across was fitted into a ERF about 1965 it was a 6 cylinder none turbo and was know well for its 3 mpg, diesel was only about 8 pence per GALLON then.it was a good puller but was it noisy it deafened you,later was the ■■■■■■■ engine fitted into the leyland roadrunner a 160 or 180. i have a pal with a 180. 5,7 litre engine fitted into a yanky Dodge pickup obviously not the same engine as fitted into the earlier ERF that engine would be more weight than the pickup its self
john
Dan Punchard:
0I think this is the model that the op means long after Bewicks days in transport
I thought ■■■■■■■ had stopped making automotive engines cos of emissions legislation .
Just a thought, could be wrong, the NH 180 ■■■■■■■ was indeed a '60’s lump
Jim
■■■■■■■ do truck engines for the Chinese market to meet the current emission standards ,but to fit a uk lorry would require a good electrician or rocket scientist
robf1234:
hi i think they were turbos and were straight six ,cos i remenber the Gardner 240 stuck out the back of the cab ,think that was an 8 cylinder ,but it was 40 years since i worked on them ,rob
Was it not the Gardener 300 that was the long 8 cylinder motor, and the 240 a 6 cylinder?
JFC999:
Dan Punchard:
0I think this is the model that the op means long after Bewicks days in transportI thought ■■■■■■■ had stopped making automotive engines cos of emissions legislation .
Just a thought, could be wrong, the NH 180 ■■■■■■■ was indeed a '60’s lump
Jim
Don’t know about that, there are a number of Euro 6 buses with ■■■■■■■ 250s in them.
robroy:
robf1234:
hi i think they were turbos and were straight six ,cos i remenber the Gardner 240 stuck out the back of the cab ,think that was an 8 cylinder ,but it was 40 years since i worked on them ,robWas it not the Gardener 300 that was the long 8 cylinder motor, and the 240 a 6 cylinder?
Gardner 240 was 8 pot I think they put a turbo on it mid 80’s and that updated it to 300
Jim
joetow:
hello truck net just wanted to know if the ■■■■■■■ 180 engine is a 4 or 6 cylinder & is it turbo diesel they fitted these into the bmc/erf trucks ? any advice or help most helpful thanks j.t
I’ve only ever worked on 2 ERF EP6’s I think they were called and they both had 6 cylinder turbocharged ■■■■■■■ motors fitted. Possibly the bt6a??
sonflowerinwales:
My ERF had a ■■■■■■■ 180 turbo diesel and a cracked cylinder head
Paul
E6 ? Same as the leyland road runner engine a ■■■■■■■ b series as in 6 Bta 5.9 l ,the old nh series 180 would probably be a 12 litre I’d think .
robroy:
robf1234:
hi i think they were turbos and were straight six ,cos i remenber the Gardner 240 stuck out the back of the cab ,think that was an 8 cylinder ,but it was 40 years since i worked on them ,robWas it not the Gardener 300 that was the long 8 cylinder motor, and the 240 a 6 cylinder?
The Gardner 8 pot 240 was mostly fitted to the Guy Big J. I think there is a short thread about it on the Old Time Drivers Forum
Regards. John.
did santa bring you a new spoon old 67 ■■
rigsby:
did santa bring you a new spoon old 67 ■■
No Rigsby,still use the one I got not long after entering the transport industry back in '64. always believed good natured banter made the job a lot more enjoyable !!
Regards. John.
you can’t beat the craic john , one of the things i miss about driving , but the old timers thread keeps me sane , cheers , dave
This is what the DAF website says
The LF Series offers a wide choice of power ratings to suit every application in the most efficient way. The 4.5 litre four cylinder PACCAR FR engine is available with outputs of 140 hp, 160 hp, 185 hp or 207 hp and torque levels of 550 Nm, 600 Nm, 700 Nm and 760 Nm respectively. The 6.7 litre six cylinder PACCAR GR engine offers maximum outputs of 220 hp, 250 hp, 285 hp or 300 hp with corresponding torque figures of 850 Nm, 950 Nm, 1,020 Nm or 1,100 Nm. Importantly, the maximum available torque is available from as low as 1,200 rpm, resulting in greater flexibility and less gear shifting.
These engines are made by ■■■■■■■ and have Paccar vanity badges: the 4-pot in a new factory in China, the six in the UK at Darlington.