yungnad:
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borrowed from a well known website, nuffsed, now for a mars bar thats been in the windscreen of guy invincible for a week,
name this location folks ?, an was it windy last time you sheeted up there,
bewicks favourite for the mars bar
Good to see a bit light harted banter on here my guess Marchon Whitehaven top entrance main offices 
hodgeturbo:
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georgeking:
I read a magazine today and it had a page devoted to DA Harrison it had photos of their old Magirus Deutz and ERF 8x4 tippers.hello georgeking
Which magazine is that? I would love to get a copy of it.
Kindest regards
CGthe pictures are in junes issue of classic commercials cg
Hello hodgeturbo
Thankyou for that. i have managed to get a copy today at Greggains in Maryport
Kindest regards
CG
west ■■■■■■■■ boys:
yungnad:
8)
borrowed from a well known website, nuffsed, now for a mars bar thats been in the windscreen of guy invincible for a week,
name this location folks ?, an was it windy last time you sheeted up there,
Good to see a bit light harted banter on here my guess Marchon Whitehaven top entrance main offices
Hello west ■■■■■■■■ boys
Where you driving your wagon through Dalston by the Fuel Depot on Friday at around 3.30pm? Its just I saw a Sandersons wagon there and it looked very smart. Well done for keeping it looking so good if it was yours.
Kindest regards
CG
Marchon Main Gate with traffic office on the left and canteen etc behind the ergo AEC tractor unit It was often windy on the seaward side behind the sheds in the background where you loaded generally drums known as S 6 stores if I remember correctly, not much need to sheet there but at S 7 stores further along to the south where all packaged goods were loaded in loading bays sheeting could be a problem outside on a windy day if Joe ■■? (name escapes me) loading gaffer chased you outside in order to get another wagon in for loading a load of Big S soap powder was indeed a high load sometimes on pallets for Winthrop Laboratories at Fawden, Newcastle on Tyne or if for shipment to Scandinavia from Grangemouth or T I C Quay North Shields handball was the game. These loads took a lot of time and patience to sheet properly especially for those hauliers who did not have a sheet big enough to cover the whole load One asthmatical owner driver from Gilcrux with an ERF artic was asked by another well known haulier these days if he wanted a hand to sheet as he was the last to load and night was drawing in as there was about four of us there to help him. His gasping reply, “No Marra thanks ah’ll seun scop a bit o sheet at it, git yersels away yam an ah’l see you all in,t mornin.” and he did. Those were the good old days when we all helped each other.
Cheers , Leyland 600.
Did you load out of Marchon direct or did you sub off BRS L600 ? I recall Harry Thompson telling me it was something of an achievment if you could get into marchon direct.Obviously uncle Stan would need some “backshees” to facilitate a direct account!!! 
.He was on his way out to retirement when I bought out McGuffie Transport in 1974.McGuffie was in direct and we loaded regularly for 5 or 6 years.I suppose when BRS finished and H&L errupted on the scene it would have been an interesting time.Did ADB run out of Marchon on their own account or were they fully occupied with DEC ? Interesting times never-the-less.Cheers Dennis.
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Very interesting “george” ,we used to tip anything from 1 up to 3 loads of new 45 gal drums a day at A&W but we usually loaded from the Steel Works for J.W. Graham which got our drum trailers back down to Liverpool,we loaded either Rail for Garston or Pig Iron for Midland Roller makers at Crewe.Not as regular as the Steel were loads out of Marchon to Liverpool and Cheshire.But if we had plenty of traffic out of Milnthorpe it was a lot easier to shoot back through the Lakes empty,and our rates out of Milnthorpe to Lancs and Cheshire were better than the rates out of West ■■■■■■■ so it was a better job all round.However we did always load in W.■■■■■■■ if possible at least one trailer a day,just to keep our hand in so to speak.Cheers Dennis.
georgeking:
Dennis you mention AD Boyes hauling out of DEC, when I first left school I worked at DEC, whilst AD Boyes used to load most days, Tyson Burridge also used to haul out of there just as frequently (at least out of the CCSD, Continuous Casting Servicing Department), Econofreight used to haul the really heavy loads.
H. & M E would also run out of DEC “george”,there’s a shot of one of “H”'s F88’s in an accident on the A66 and it is loaded with moulds from DEC. Un-less,of course,he was subbing the load off Johnson Bros. or H&L ? Cheers Dennis.
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georgeking:
Bewick:
Very interesting “george” ,we used to tip anything from 1 up to 3 loads of new 45 gal drums a day at A&W but we usually loaded from the Steel Works for J.W. Graham which got our drum trailers back down to Liverpool,we loaded either Rail for Garston or Pig Iron for Midland Roller makers at Crewe.Not as regular as the Steel were loads out of Marchon to Liverpool and Cheshire.But if we had plenty of traffic out of Milnthorpe it was a lot easier to shoot back through the Lakes empty,and our rates out of Milnthorpe to Lancs and Cheshire were better than the rates out of West ■■■■■■■ so it was a better job all round.However we did always load in W.■■■■■■■ if possible at least one trailer a day,just to keep our hand in so to speak.Cheers Dennis.I thought that the rates out of Marchon were good! who did you subcontract for out of Marchon?
We didn’t sub off anyone out of A&W “george”,our shunter would enquire at the traffic office if there was a load for Lancs/Cheshire,if there was he would load it and drop it on the trailer park then go into the steel works and load another and bring it down to Milnthorpe.We would then send a night man up with a load of drums and he would change trailers and return with the A&W load for delivery next day by one of our day men.We usually had 1 or 2 empty trailers standing at A&W.Cheers Dennis.
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georgeking:
Bewick:
georgeking:
Bewick:
Very interesting “george” ,we used to tip anything from 1 up to 3 loads of new 45 gal drums a day at A&W but we usually loaded from the Steel Works for J.W. Graham which got our drum trailers back down to Liverpool,we loaded either Rail for Garston or Pig Iron for Midland Roller makers at Crewe.Not as regular as the Steel were loads out of Marchon to Liverpool and Cheshire.But if we had plenty of traffic out of Milnthorpe it was a lot easier to shoot back through the Lakes empty,and our rates out of Milnthorpe to Lancs and Cheshire were better than the rates out of West ■■■■■■■ so it was a better job all round.However we did always load in W.■■■■■■■ if possible at least one trailer a day,just to keep our hand in so to speak.Cheers Dennis.I thought that the rates out of Marchon were good! who did you subcontract for out of Marchon?
We didn’t sub off anyone out of A&W “george”,our shunter would enquire at the traffic office if there was a load for Lancs/Cheshire,if there was he would load it and drop it on the trailer park then go into the steel works and load another and bring it down to Milnthorpe.We would then send a night man up with a load of drums and he would change trailers and return with the A&W load for delivery next day by one of our day men.We usually had 1 or 2 empty trailers standing at A&W.Cheers Dennis.
What about Tyson Burridge I thought you worked through them!
I hope you aren’t taking “the ■■■■” george !!! Although Tyson would have given his “right arm” to have got his hands on our drum traffic,he never could and we ran the drums up until things started going “pear shaped” at A&W and the packaged side at A&W was replaced with bulk and the drum job just “fizzled” out,but it was very lucrative traffic for us for about 7or 8 years.Cheers Dennis.
Hi Bewick, I started hauling Marchon products through an introduction to BRS Howgate (Manager, the late Gordon Meldrum) via RW in 1964. This was just after H&L started up circa 1963 by ■■? Holloway from Scunthorpe and Alec Lavery who was BRS Howgate manager. Marchon traffic was divided between BRS and H&L but numerous others owner drivers were in direct, Jimmy (Squeak) O Neil, carrying drums, Joe Dial, Henry Turner all Aspatria,Duncan Hill, Joe Routledge, Billy Pattinson both Plumbland, Working regularly through BRS were, A.D. Boyes, Tyson Burridge, Donnie Bewick, Hector Johnston, ■■■■ (Snowball) Stamper of Dearham, ■■? Goodfellow, Cleator Moor, F. Caunce, Rufford, B.Mandale, Greystoke, H&L had a nucleus of sub contractors, Johnston Bros ( part of that company being taken over by H&L) Tonkin of Egremont, Memory getting hazy but I will ask an ex BRS friend who certainly will know who else was involved. DEC work was also shared by BRS and H&L. I seem to remember H&L did not last too long perhaps until1969 or thereabouts and some H&L office staff returned to BRS and managed the depot until closure circa 1973 when most of the aformentioned hauliers went direct into Marchon, ADB to DEC. By this time I was working direct out of Blue Circle at Marchon and was really out of touch with what went on along the road. A terrific amount of soap powder and soapy derivatives in bags, kegs and drums plus liquids carried by Harold Wood, Tyburn, and various others was hauled in and out during those years… After humble beginnings on Whitehaven dockside in 1939-40 making firelighters Fred Marsilliease and Frank Schon developed a huge multi national company Whitehaven becoming the largest Sulphuric Acid plant in the world. Marchon themselves had a sizeable fleet of AEC Mercury and Marshall flats and boxvans plus Mammoth Major tankers, also two or three Jensens in the early days. They went on to own three ships running phosphate rock from North Africa to Whitehaven thus requiring a fleet of AEC Mammoth Major tippers then Mandators later Atkinson Borderers and some ERFs I think.
Hope this puts you in the picture, Cheers Leyland 600.
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cattle wagon man:
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georgeking:
I read a magazine today and it had a page devoted to DA Harrison it had photos of their old Magirus Deutz and ERF 8x4 tippers.hello georgeking
Which magazine is that? I would love to get a copy of it.
Kindest regards
CGHi ■■■■■■■■ Gill ,
It wasThe Literacy Magazine, a supplement of the Financial Times Business newspaper .
Mebbe a tad too technical for you , eh , marra ?
Try the local Library , - they`ll probably explain the story details to you , or ask Mr. Bewick ( politely ) , and
I am sure his business expertise will enlighten your inquisition.Good Luck .
Cheers , cattle wagon man.Hello catle wagon man
I don’t find that very funny. I was only asking because I’m INTERESTED.
Kindest regards
CG
Hi ■■■■■■■■ Gill,
Oh dear ! You appear to have mislaid your sense of humour, or perhaps you cant obtain a copy of The Literacy Magazine ` . Never mind , the story was also reproduced in Classic & Vintage Commercials magazine , so your newsagent would be happy to oblige .
Mr. Bewick kindly offered his assistance , for which we are both grateful.
Regards , cattle wagon man.
cattle wagon man:
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cattle wagon man:
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georgeking:
I read a magazine today and it had a page devoted to DA Harrison it had photos of their old Magirus Deutz and ERF 8x4 tippers.hello georgeking
Which magazine is that? I would love to get a copy of it.
Kindest regards
CGHi ■■■■■■■■ Gill ,
It wasThe Literacy Magazine, a supplement of the Financial Times Business newspaper .
Mebbe a tad too technical for you , eh , marra ?
Try the local Library , - they`ll probably explain the story details to you , or ask Mr. Bewick ( politely ) , and
I am sure his business expertise will enlighten your inquisition.Good Luck .
Cheers , cattle wagon man.Hello catle wagon man
I don’t find that very funny. I was only asking because I’m INTERESTED.
Kindest regards
CGHi ■■■■■■■■ Gill,
Oh dear ! You appear to have mislaid your sense of humour, or perhaps you cant obtain a copy ofThe Literacy Magazine ` . Never mind , the story was also reproduced in Classic & Vintage Commercials magazine , so your newsagent would be happy to oblige .
Mr. Bewick kindly offered his assistance , for which we are both grateful.
Regards , cattle wagon man.
Hello cattle wagon man
Thankyou for that. I managed to get a copy yesterday at Greggains in Maryport. Its an excelent selection of photos
Kindest regards
CG
Hiya L600,thanks for that very comprehensive description of haulage and hauliers that ran out of Marchon in the 50’s/60’s, what I would have given to have been there “in amang them eh!”.In the last couple of years in the 60’s ,before we moved to Kendal,it was young Alex that ran on the traffic out of W. ■■■■■■■ as the Beaver and Comet were still involved on Livestock ect.RWB had gone “walkabout” and didn’t return until after I’d left Ireby.You didn’t mention J.W. Graham or Harry Fearon I think Grahams mainly ran out of the Steel Works so would this be through BRS or was it direct,I recall a driver called Syd Eve on one of JWG’s Octopus’s who I’ve seen mentioned as a driver for Jazzer later in the 60’s.IIRC ADB used to haul pulp wood out of Gillerthwaite? Ennerdale, for Bowaters Ellesmere Port which was possibly for JWG Bass Lake,but I’m not sure as I was only a wee lad !!Anyhow,very interesting as what and who you describe will soon have faded completely from memory.Donnie Bewick was a big Hound Dog competitor,he must have had someone who did all the training and walking because he was up and down the road away from home a lot ! Great days,long gone but not forgotten eh! Cheers Dennis.
Hi Dennis, I thought you would be able to piece a lot of this information together, JWG were in the steelworks direct I think and Robsons also did some work from there along with BRS. There was a firm from about Sheffield with an LAD cabbed Beaver or Badger that ran railway lines out of the steelworks with a long trombone trailer. Donnie was a great hound dog man I can remember him when I was a boy at Wigton auction with an old ERF and Hector Johnston had an equally old Albion both on livestock, Harry Bragg from Beckfoot had a Beaver KAO 59 same as AD’s. H&ME ran out of Smith Bros on the paper bag job I drove a Commer TS3 for him for a short while when the London smogs were all the go, (zb) awfull job lots of drops would sicken anyone especially loading at Smiths 3 sites could take all day then expect it delivered to the smoke by 8-0am next morning. Harry Hellon from Bigrigg became part of Jazzers and seemed to specialize in dairy products out of Egremont creamery and sugar back from Liverpool possible connected to Rowntrees chocolate chip manufacture at Egremont. Johnstons had most of the dairy products out of Aspatria dairy, Robsons were major hauliers out of Thames Board when it commenced production… Jack Watt had all the work out of Tyne Brand Products at Maryport. Quaker Oats provided a large amount of work for BRS vehicles and sub contractors to various BRS parcels depots who were responsible for distribution of the cartons of porridge oats,these loads had to be extremely well sheeted and imperative that a drip sheet was used to ensure there was no wet packaging but to of the awkward (zbs) at some of these depots would claim that a few cartons were wet, this happened regularly in high summer without a drop of rain for days truth was the cartons used to sweat leaving little pools or damp patches which immediatly were rejected but they retained the cartons, we all became wise to this as it resulted in a GIT insurance claim and insisted that we retain the cartons which we all found could be sold on to local grocers or eaten by the family and watered down the cost of the GIT claim. One big name these days lived on porridge oats for breakfast, dinner, tea and supper for a long time after such an annoying spurrious claim but was adamant the BRS Parcels guys would not benifit. L 600
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