MacD, I think I’m right in saying that the the Penrith operators were G A Stamper (Gordon) and J G Stamper (Jeff). Gordon himself died, at a guess, around 1970/1. I have a copy of his obituary in the Atkinson house magazine of the time.
Here’s an earlier clipping about him, from the Autumn 1965 edition:
And from the Summer 1971 edition:
I read or heard that Mercedes have made it because they offered one variation of a model and it was take it or leave it thus simplifying their production and Foden and Leyland’s downfall was offering was offering every possible variation of engine / gearbox / axle. In Foden’s case I think everything was an option. We had Foden dumpers when I worked at Silverdale quarry and the parts books from the 50s were immense, second only to Cat parts books which went back to the first machine and had every modification done since then. It will all be on a CD now I suppose, much more efficient but not as impressive.
What I was going to say was wasn’t it more interesting when they changed things to see how it did. Most of the operators back then would have done it themselves if they thought it was worth trying.
Finally got pics in photobucket, here’s my first practice one to start with
This was one of Athersmiths later Seddon 32:4’s, KEO 857J. The last two in Athersmith’s colours were NEO 749K and NEO 750K
I’ll also add one for BEWICK,
Thanks for the screen name compliment 240, I have many happy memories of falling asleep to the noise of a 180, usually in the truck below (on the passenger side!- I was 13). Blue dart had a batch of these, YRJ 221 to 240T I think. Up to 235 were 180s, the rest 240s.
Thanks for showing the brady twin steer pic, It would be great to see any other brady atki or scania 111 pics. They had at least one more twin steer, GEO 789G. Picture below shows it minus its second steer and converted to recovery
One more for now, a classic brady scania 111
My favourite Brady Trucks were the 240 borderers, OEO 194 L, OEO 340 L, OEO 820L (pictured below with the lower chrome bumper from one of the Mk 1s), SEO 479M and SEO 629M
gardner180:
Finally got pics in photobucket, here’s my first practice one to start with
This was one of Athersmiths later Seddon 32:4’s, KEO 857J. The last two in Athersmith’s colours were NEO 749K and NEO 750K
I’ll also add one for BEWICK,
Hiya “180” some nice shots and I see you put one on of a good motor !! I don’t know who all the kids belong to in the cab though !! Was one of those Brad’y 8LXB Borderers in Athersmith livery ? I seem to remember Bill Birkby drove one on trunk to West Brom which one of the Reg’s would that one have been ? I have dug out 750 photos and will try to put one or two on the thread so get your sun-glasses on !!! Cheers Bewick.
gardner180:
Finally got pics in photobucket, here’s my first practice one to start with
This was one of Athersmiths later Seddon 32:4’s, KEO 857J. The last two in Athersmith’s colours were NEO 749K and NEO 750K
I’m not a Seddon afficionado at all, but that’s a great action shot of a proper working motor!
Some nice shots there 180, I used to drive an ex Brady Scania 110 for a firm in Wolverhampton the no. was HEO282G but I think it may have been based at West Brom originally in Cargo European Services livery, am I right in thinking they used to run Caburys chocolate abroad from there. If I remember correctly it had the passenger seat replaced with a bunk.
i was a massive fan of T Brady and Bewicks when i was younger seeeing them on the motorway allways notice them keep the pics coming go for it Bewick 750 photos must be some good ones there.
by the way i still am a big fan of bradys and bewicks great site this is
gardner180:
Finally got pics in photobucket, here’s my first practice one to start with
This was one of Athersmiths later Seddon 32:4’s, KEO 857J. The last two in Athersmith’s colours were NEO 749K and NEO 750K
I’ll also add one for BEWICK,
Did you work for athersmiths in the 70s?.If so can you remember the name of a driver who was known to stick a bar wedgeing the accellerator down once on a stretch of m/way.
regards dave.
dafdave:
Did you work for athersmiths in the 70s?.If so can you remember the name of a driver who was known to stick a bar wedgeing the accellerator down once on a stretch of m/way.
regards dave.
I think a lot of drivers used this trick if the motor was Gardner powered, the pump springs and linkage on them things would give your right leg cramp after an hour, a sort of primative cruise control 
but you had to kick the stick out to brake 
that was after unwrapping the blanket from round your legs cos they never got warm either.
Trev_H:
Some nice shots there 180, I used to drive an ex Brady Scania 110 for a firm in Wolverhampton the no. was HEO282G but I think it may have been based at West Brom originally in Cargo European Services livery, am I right in thinking they used to run Caburys chocolate abroad from there. If I remember correctly it had the passenger seat replaced with a bunk.
The SCANIA 110 must have been a Day cab. The passenger seat folded down into a bunk and the drivers seat back folded forwards and the bunk from behind driver seat folded down. Im sure the Bradys SCANIA in cadburys livery was a SCANIA 80 I have a picture somewhere I will have a look. Bradys had 2 depots in west brom one was Bradys and the other was WEBB INTERNATIONAL A company Bradys bought out.
Steve.
I was pleased myself with the Athersmiths Seddon shot, I was only 11 when I took it, panning the camera round to follow the truck as it accelerated out of the old Barrow Steelworks entrance seemed to work really well. I have inadvertently caught a bit of Barrow history in the backgound. In answer to bewicks question, yes there was another “Brady/Athersmith” 8lxb engined borderer, It was GEO 102 N, I think Bill Birkby did drive it, when I saw it in the late 70’s it was in the same colour scheme at GEO789G shown above, a sort of halfway livery between Brady and Athersmith with no names on. It always had oil stains on the drive axle hub, I think it was the infamous group axle rather than the trusty Kirkstall D85. In 2005 I met a guy from Ulverston, Gary Chorley who is a crane driver for Ainscough cranes, he told me GEO 102N ended up rolling over on the bend near Newlands coming out of Ulverston. In the late 70s Bradys bought six Volvo F88 290s, OEO 590R to 595R I think. The first three were in red with a white stripe with Athersmiths name on, the last three were in full Brady livery. Later still there were a number of Seddon Atkinson 400s that were full Brady livery but with Athersmith’s name on, like BEO 777 V which I preactised my reversing with. I will post some pics of this in a few days. Later still, Brady got 4 DAF 3600 twinsteers, late model ones for a cheap price (heavy and thirsty though). They were D149 CEO to D152 CEO (more reversing practice for me with “152”). In the early 90s, two of these were smartened up, again in red with a white stripe but with Athersmiths name on. I think this wax a tax thing, you would register subsidiary companies which always seemed to run at a bit of a loss to offset the main profit centre.
JAMIE10:
i was a massive fan of T Brady and Bewicks when i was younger seeeing them on the motorway allways notice them keep the pics coming go for it Bewick 750 photos must be some good ones there.
Heres one of the 750 just for you Jamie !! Stood loaded at Ibis Engineers Kendal with a (new) steel cess tank for the South ( where most of the s**t is !!!) Cheers Bewick.
nice one bewick
JAMIE10:
nice one bewick
Disregard the caption Jamie I didn’t realise you lived “sarff” of Watford Gap!! Thanks Bewick.
gardner180:
I was pleased myself with the Athersmiths Seddon shot, I was only 11 when I took it, panning the camera round to follow the truck as it accelerated out of the old Barrow Steelworks entrance seemed to work really well. I have inadvertently caught a bit of Barrow history in the backgound. In answer to bewicks question, yes there was another “Brady/Athersmith” 8lxb engined borderer, It was GEO 102 N, I think Bill Birkby did drive it, when I saw it in the late 70’s it was in the same colour scheme at GEO789G shown above, a sort of halfway livery between Brady and Athersmith with no names on. It always had oil stains on the drive axle hub, I think it was the infamous group axle rather than the trusty Kirkstall D85. In 2005 I met a guy from Ulverston, Gary Chorley who is a crane driver for Ainscough cranes, he told me GEO 102N ended up rolling over on the bend near Newlands coming out of Ulverston. In the late 70s Bradys bought six Volvo F88 290s, OEO 590R to 595R I think. The first three were in red with a white stripe with Athersmiths name on, the last three were in full Brady livery. Later still there were a number of Seddon Atkinson 400s that were full Brady livery but with Athersmith’s name on, like BEO 777 V which I preactised my reversing with. I will post some pics of this in a few days. Later still, Brady got 4 DAF 3600 twinsteers, late model ones for a cheap price (heavy and thirsty though). They were D149 CEO to D152 CEO (more reversing practice for me with “152”). In the early 90s, two of these were smartened up, again in red with a white stripe but with Athersmiths name on. I think this wax a tax thing, you would register subsidiary companies which always seemed to run at a bit of a loss to offset the main profit centre.
I hope you arn’t suggesting that having a “few” subsiduaries was a tax dodge “180” naughty naughty !! There were ,of course , two Brady company descriptions one ending in Sons and one ending in Son !! Speaking from personal contact with both Bob snr. and Jack over a good number of years neither one discredited the other to me (and I at one time was deeply involved with Jack who I admired greatly but I still was a pal of Bob snr. at the same time ! ) I did think and said at the time that it was very childish to change the name of the firm by omitting the “S” of the name ! I know that a standing joke was always that the Big’un was the “S” on the end of sons but that was out of order as Jackie would be the first to admit !! The Big’un could charm the birds out of the trees when it came to dealing with suppliers and customers !! Jackie used to tell me some hilarious tales about the Big’uns antics that had me crippled with laughter !! Honest ! However it is all water under the bridge now but I still count Bob snr. and Jack Brady R.I.P.as pals and Giants in the transport industry . Bewick.
no erfence taken bewick
Bewick:
JAMIE10:
i was a massive fan of T Brady and Bewicks when i was younger seeeing them on the motorway allways notice them keep the pics coming go for it Bewick 750 photos must be some good ones there.Heres one of the 750 just for you Jamie !! Stood loaded at Ibis Engineers Kendal with a (new) steel cess tank for the South ( where most of the s**t is !!!) Cheers Bewick.
The Atky RJM 828M spec was 220■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ 610/Group axle and joined the fleet secondhand at less than two years old it mainly was based in the south at Gravesend and Dunstable and was little or no trouble during its service .