Hi Dennis, This was a 64GU model, heavy duty chassis, underslung rear springs plated at 16 ton gross. A good job I only operated it as a preserved lorry, perhaps Jack Henley the original owner did not get too much weight on it running to wholesale fruit and vegetable markets, ie Covent Garden etc. I would not have considered such a heavy wagon to make a living.
Cheers, Leyland 600.
Leyland600:
Hi Dennis, This was a 64GU model, heavy duty chassis, underslung rear springs plated at 16 ton gross. A good job I only operated it as a preserved lorry, perhaps Jack Henley the original owner did not get too much weight on it running to wholesale fruit and vegetable markets, ie Covent Garden etc. I would not have considered such a heavy wagon to make a living.
Cheers, Leyland 600.
Hiya Gerald, Probably only could manage 9 ton but as you say it would be well in on the fruit job, it was obviously a trailer model but I think it would have struggled BHP wise with a draw bar behind it. Those taper leaf chassis ERF 4 wheelers were lightweights especially the ones with the 6:354 Perkins engine. I recall that a Chap from Milnthorpe, Larry Ion, ran a “C” reg one with a right light wood/ali flat and he could manage about 11 ton 5 cwt payload. Cheers Dennis.
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Leyland600:
Hi Dennis, This was a 64GU model, heavy duty chassis, underslung rear springs plated at 16 ton gross. A good job I only operated it as a preserved lorry, perhaps Jack Henley the original owner did not get too much weight on it running to wholesale fruit and vegetable markets, ie Covent Garden etc. I would not have considered such a heavy wagon to make a living.
Cheers, Leyland 600.
I’ve just dug this shot out Gerald of my first two Atkis and you can see the Kysor shutters through the grilles. I had the next one fitted with a Kysor but then I switched to Dynair thermo fans instead, apparently there had been a number of Rad failures because of the “pull” of the big fan against the back of the Rad with the shutter closed, but none of our three failed though. Cheers Dennis.
Hi D ehennis, what a waste of a good motor an ERF fitted with a heap of (szbt) a 6.354 like a bag of nails. I had a Dodge so fitted best thing it should have had was a match held to it. Yes my ERF with 120 Gardner would be struggling with a trailer on it although it was not fit up for trailer work mind you the 1963 S21 cabbed eight wheeler Foden I had was only a 6LW but with a 12 speed box and would climb telegraph poles. It was fully fitted for trailer work but I never ventured into that scenario.
Cheers, Leyland 600.
Leyland600:
Hi D ehennis, what a waste of a good motor an ERF fitted with a heap of (szbt) a 6.354 like a bag of nails. I had a Dodge so fitted best thing it should have had was a match held to it. Yes my ERF with 120 Gardner would be struggling with a trailer on it although it was not fit up for trailer work mind you the 1963 S21 cabbed eight wheeler Foden I had was only a 6LW but with a 12 speed box and would climb telegraph poles. It was fully fitted for trailer work but I never ventured into that scenario.
Cheers, Leyland 600.
So can I take it the Perkins was not a favourite of yours Gerald ! Was the Foden a double or single drive bogie ? and what length of flat ? if it was 28ft you’d only have been able to pull about a 14ft drawbar ! ( very slowly with a 6LW under the bonnet eh!) Cheers Dennis.
Dennis, as I kept telling the Ireby speed merchants with their ■■■■■■■ engined Dagenham dustbins the old Foden always got there day in day out with very little trouble apart from a broken spring or two but certainly not having an engine change every three weeks to a month in the County Garage.
Slow but sure and economical good, cold in winter seltering in summer but making money not running up garage bills.
Cheers, Leyland 600.
Leyland600:
Dennis, as I kept telling the Ireby speed merchants with their ■■■■■■■ engined Dagenham dustbins the old Foden always got there day in day out with very little trouble apart from a broken spring or two but certainly not having an engine change every three weeks to a month in the County Garage.
Slow but sure and economical good, cold in winter seltering in summer but making money not running up garage bills.
Cheers, Leyland 600.
Aye Gerald it’s a wonder how they survived ! but I’ve got to say I ran a D1000 for nearly three years and it never missed a beat, but I tret it with respect eh! Cheers Dennis.
pete smith:
If you fancy a project Gerald…the engine may put you off though!
I just believe this subject could have the makings of a new thread, " Retired Wigton haulier sets about restoring a Perkins engine ERF then when the project is finished, beautiful job, he torches it on Bonfire night" 
Cheers Dennis.
I wonder how much cheaper the Perkins engine chassis was compared to one with a 5LW ( cheapest Gardner ?) Cheers Bewick. PS and aye Gerald how would you have fancied one with a Commer 2 stroke engine, mebe you’d have stopped at H & M. E. if they’d had one Cheers Dennis.
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Mike Ponsonby:
bewick is back
Hi Mike,
So the Scanias are going and being replaced by Atki Borderers, ERF’s and Sed Aki’s and then in a few years series 2 Scanias!
Mike Ponsonby:
bewick is back
Been away for a couple of days, but what a Christmas present 
The name of the old firm back in the safe hands of the very well respected and capable operator Mike Ponsonby, so can’t improve on that ownership of the old name ! Mike did have the courtesy to ask me for permission to use the name prior to him registering it at Co House, of course I had absolutely no objection whatsoever, quite the opposite, it was a compliment to the old firm and in particular all the former employees and staff that were involved at Bewick Transport over almost 30 years. I sincerely hope that Mike has as much enjoyment and pleasure as I did during the “first” incarnation of Bewick Transport ! So here’s wishing the old name, and new owner Mike every success for the coming year and beyond. All the best, Dennis E. Smith, former MD Bewick Transport Services Ltd.
thank you dennis
yes that’s right pete do you think we will get many driver applicants
pete smith:
Mike Ponsonby:
bewick is backHi Mike,
So the Scanias are going and being replaced by Atki Borderers, ERF’s and Sed Aki’s and then in a few years series 2 Scanias!
pete smith:
Mike Ponsonby:
bewick is backHi Mike,
So the Scanias are going and being replaced by Atki Borderers, ERF’s and Sed Aki’s and then in a few years series 2 Scanias!
I understand that the first 40 applicants, or was it 39 ? will be allocated a brand new Big J 8LXB/ 40ft flat with two main sheets ,a fly sheet and 8 x 90ft ropes !! 
Mike Ponsonby:
yes that’s right pete do you think we will get many driver applicantspete smith:
Mike Ponsonby:
bewick is backHi Mike,
So the Scanias are going and being replaced by Atki Borderers, ERF’s and Sed Aki’s and then in a few years series 2 Scanias!
Sign me up mate for an Atki but put my name on the first Scania 112!
pete smith:
Mike Ponsonby:
yes that’s right pete do you think we will get many driver applicantspete smith:
Mike Ponsonby:
bewick is backHi Mike,
So the Scanias are going and being replaced by Atki Borderers, ERF’s and Sed Aki’s and then in a few years series 2 Scanias!Sign me up mate for an Atki but put my name on the first Scania 112!
We can’t show favouritism Pete just because you are my “Dutch Uncle” Dennis.