Cruise control

Hi all i drive a DAF XF with Cruise control working as a tramper and last year it went into our local dealer for a service / inspection. Whilst in there the manaqgement system had an upgrade and it came back with the speed limiter set to 90k (55mph) and the cruise control maxing out at 85k (52 mph). I thought this was great i could stick it on cruise at anything above 85k and then take my foot off the throttle and it would back off to 85k , great for most motorways and dual carriagways a few of the faster guys would overtake but most of the time you would be catching up with the sensible operators that are speed limited to 50 /53 mph IE wincanton /Asda/Tesco/Cullina ect. To overtake them all you need to do is put your foot to the floor and pass them at 55 mph ( a couple of minutes at the most not 5 or 10 miles stuck alongside them ) then when passed them back off the throttle and back to 52 mph. I thought this was an ideal setup. I thought driving at a leasurley pace saving the company money by saving fuel an still getting the job done.
That was until i went on holiday for a week got back and the cruise control was now set at 90k 55mph by an agency driver. He had taken it into DAF and had it adjusted to what he thought was correct. So whe i found this out i protested and had it set back to 85kph. then last month i went on holiday again but this time i asked the person in charge of the servicig and repairs in the transport office to ensure that the settings would not be altered again. i was told they would not be touched!!!
I came back off holiday and i can now cruise again at 90k. Is it me or is this same agency driver running our trasport department.
I have driven on the agency for more years than this guy has had his HGV. You get paid by the hour the more hours you work the more you get paid!!! So why would you want to drive flat out on cruise control■■? I think it is dangerous and also a wast of fuel.
Can anybody tell me why daf set the cruise control as a default to 85k and is this a legal requirement as our transport manager says i can not have it reset to what i want (85kph)

are you too stupid to realise that just because a cruise control is set at max 90KPh, you can actually set it to whatever speed you like?

just because the max is 90, you can still set it at 85 if you wish and you would be in the same position as you already are :unamused:

i can’t really see what your problem is with this

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It’s going to make very little difference.

The speed is easily changed and the agency driver wouldn’t have needed it taken into DAF.

The speed limiter is fitted for a reason, when your on a motorway you should be doing 56 like everyone else and not 50 like tesco. It’s simply dangerous.

billybigrig:
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and WTF are you laughing at? :unamused: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

My CF must have strange cruise control then because i can set it at 40mph aswell as 50 or even 55 the little button works really well :smiley:

I can’t think there’s any legal restriction on the settings of the cruise control, so long as they don’t take the vehicle outside its type approval or allow you to override the speed limiter setting configured by the tachograph centre. I can’t see a dealer having authorisation to do either of these things (unless they’re also a tachograph centre and are prepared to take the risk of tampering with the limiter).

As such, it is purely down to your company to instruct the dealer on how they want the vehicle configured.

I’m not familiar with the DAF system, but if it’s like the cruise control on my car, what’s stopping you putting it on cruise a little shy of the limiter setting, giving yourself a little margin to put your foot down and overtake? That seems to be what you want.

Assuming that the cruise control will work at any speed between a minimum (often around 20mph) and the higher of the limiter setting and dealer configured cruise maximum, having your preferred speed set at the maximum cruise speed is a convenience and nothing more. It’s nice to be able to click cruise control on and have the vehicle drop to your preferred speed if it’s going a little faster, but you can always set the speed manually before setting cruise control. It’s the company’s vehicle, and if they feel it should be able to run on cruise control up to the maximum, that’s their decision.

Many cruise control systems have a ‘last cruise speed’ function - albeit once that survives only until you turn the ignition off. If the DAF has this feature, you merely have to set your preferred cruise speed once after ignition off, then you can press the ‘resume’ button to set cruise control at that speed again.

shuttlespanker:

billybigrig:
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and WTF are you laughing at? :unamused: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Not you for once, you’re paranoid Captain Spanks :wink:

Do you think the DCPC will include a lesson on how to use cruise control :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

billybigrig:

shuttlespanker:

billybigrig:
:lol: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

and WTF are you laughing at? :unamused: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Not you for once, you’re paranoid Captain Spanks :wink:

Do you think the DCPC will include a lesson on how to use cruise control :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

i think it needs to, just for idiots like the OP :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

tonypv12:
Hi all i drive a DAF XF with Cruise control working as a tramper and last year it went into our local dealer for a service / inspection. Whilst in there the manaqgement system had an upgrade and it came back with the speed limiter set to 90k (55mph) and the cruise control maxing out at 85k (52 mph). I thought this was great i could stick it on cruise at anything above 85k and then take my foot off the throttle and it would back off to 85k , great for most motorways and dual carriagways a few of the faster guys would overtake but most of the time you would be catching up with the sensible operators that are speed limited to 50 /53 mph IE wincanton /Asda/Tesco/Cullina ect. To overtake them all you need to do is put your foot to the floor and pass them at 55 mph ( a cople of minutes at the most not 5 or 10 miles stuck alongside them ) then when passed them back off the throttle and back to 52 mph. I thought this was an ideal setup. I thought driving at a leasurley pace saving the company money by saving fuel an still getting the job done.
That was until i went on holiday for a week got back and the cruise control was now set at 90k 85mph by an agency driver. He had taken it into DAF and had it adjusted to what he thought was correct. So whe i found this out i protested and had it set back to 85kph. then last month i went on holiday again but this time i asked the person in charge of the servicig and repairs in the transport office to ensure that the settings would not be altered again. i was told they would not be touched!!!
I came back off holiday and i can now cruise again at 90k. Is it me or is this same agency driver running our trasport department.
I have driven on the agency for more years than this guy has had his HGV. You get paid by the hour the more hours you work the more you get paid!!! So why would you want to drive flat out on cruise control■■? I think it is dangerous and also a wast of fuel.
Can anybody tell me why daf set the cruise control as a default to 85k and is this a legal requirement as our transport manager says i can not have it reset to what i want (85kph)

So your truck is now at 85mph? :smiley: :laughing: :laughing:

shuttlespanker:
are you too stupid to realise that just because a cruise control is set at max 90KPh, you can actually set it to whatever speed you like?

just because the max is 90, you can still set it at 85 if you wish and you would be in the same position as you already are :unamused:

i can’t really see what your problem is with this

the same can be said for the agency driver all he has to do is put hi foot on the throttle to drive flat out so why have it altered.

tonypv12:

shuttlespanker:
are you too stupid to realise that just because a cruise control is set at max 90KPh, you can actually set it to whatever speed you like?

just because the max is 90, you can still set it at 85 if you wish and you would be in the same position as you already are :unamused:

i can’t really see what your problem is with this

the same can be said for the agency driver all he has to do is put hi foot on the throttle to drive flat out so why have it altered.

Ahhh Tramper Princess Syndrome it is then :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

tonypv12:

shuttlespanker:
are you too stupid to realise that just because a cruise control is set at max 90KPh, you can actually set it to whatever speed you like?

just because the max is 90, you can still set it at 85 if you wish and you would be in the same position as you already are :unamused:

i can’t really see what your problem is with this

the same can be said for the agency driver all he has to do is put hi foot on the throttle to drive flat out so why have it altered.

it is more comfortable to drive with cruise control, set by the driver, lower than the limited speed than it is with the driver having to ‘put his foot on the throttle to drive flat out’

i still can’t see what your problem is with this, do you have to have your arse wiped when you go for a crap?

I really hate people who think wasting other road users time & endangering them by driving slow just to get a few quid extra in your pay packet is ok :smiling_imp:
Like ‘stagedriver’ says stick to 56 like everyone else on the motorway, the limit is 60 for HGVs…!!!

One of the mechanics in our local dealer said to us it doesn’t really save fuel at all, it reduces instantaneous consumption but levels out because the engine has to run for a longer time I.e 56miles @ 56mph=1h, 56miles @ 50mph=1h6min. That extra 6 min still burns fuel & co2 emissions are produced, common sense but clearly management & some drivers are too stupid to figure that out-it’s called ‘false economy’…!

Is this for real must be a wind up no one is that daft :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

Pimpdaddy:
I really hate people who think wasting other road users time & endangering them by driving slow just to get a few quid extra in your pay packet is ok :smiling_imp:
Like ‘stagedriver’ says stick to 56 like everyone else on the motorway, the limit is 60 for HGVs…!!!

One of the mechanics in our local dealer said to us it doesn’t really save fuel at all, it reduces instantaneous consumption but levels out because the engine has to run for a longer time I.e 56miles @ 56mph=1h, 56miles @ 50mph=1h6min. That extra 6 min still burns fuel & co2 emissions are produced, common sense but clearly management & some drivers are too stupid to figure that out-it’s called ‘false economy’…!

please don’t tell me that you are that stupid too :unamused:

my old truck, if i ran it flat out at 56 MPh all day, i used to get 7.5 mpg, but, if i knocked it back to 52 MPh, i could regularly get 9+ mpg

regardless of the extra time involved, it saved fuel because i was travelling the same distance, it just took a few minutes more getting there

it’s not rocket science now is it :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:

No it’s not rocket science. Don’t tell me you’re also too stupid to realise how inaccurate the indicated consumption on the dash is, hence management not relying on it for their figures…

“Nurse”

Better get captain pinkpants a prozac before he strokes out :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Pimpdaddy:
No it’s not rocket science. Don’t tell me you’re also too stupid to realise how inaccurate the indicated consumption on the dash is, hence management not relying on it for their figures…

no i’m not too stupid to realise this, this is why i work it out with a calculator based on KM’s driven and quantity of fuel put in the tank

1000 miles driven

7.5mpg = 133.333 gallons = 606 litres x £1.38 per litre = £836.28

9.0mpg = 111.111 gallons = 505 litres x £1.38 per litre = £696.90

so, even on a low mileage week such as 1000 miles, it saves £139.38 per week

the above calculations were provided free of charge to prove to the stupid people amongst us how much difference it can make

hope this helps :grimacing:

billybigrig:
“Nurse”

Better get captain pinkpants a prozac before he strokes out :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

and you can Do One too :unamused: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: