As long as you keep to the conditions set by Probation and don’t miss any of your appointments with your Probation Officer you will not be bothered at the ports. However, I would run it past the PO just incase froggy goes on strike for whatever reason and it leaves you stranded on the wrong side of the water, you never know!
Thanks for the advice, just hope I actually get to go now
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i got a customs check coming in at midnight at liverpool from ireland, the customs officer asked if i had any convictions i said no. he then came back 5 mins later and asked about spent crime from 1992, which i told him was spent, he said its never spent.
btw im not saying about 1992
jessicas dad:
i got a customs check coming in at midnight at liverpool from ireland, the customs officer asked if i had any convictions i said no. he then came back 5 mins later and asked about spent crime from 1992, which i told him was spent, he said its never spent.btw im not saying about 1992
I went to Ireland twice last year, never got stopped or questioned, but coming back from Greece on holiday the guy at passport control in Birmingham spent ages asking questions - nothing related to my record, just stuff like where have you been, why, how long etc etc…
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HAIRYGORILLA:
i was asked if i had a police record my reply was yes walking on the moon the other people at the interview fell about laughing i still got the job though![]()
That’s my usual line, normally gets a chuckle
matt3903:
jessicas dad:
i got a customs check coming in at midnight at liverpool from ireland, the customs officer asked if i had any convictions i said no. he then came back 5 mins later and asked about spent crime from 1992, which i told him was spent, he said its never spent.btw im not saying about 1992
I went to Ireland twice last year, never got stopped or questioned, but coming back from Greece on holiday the guy at passport control in Birmingham spent ages asking questions - nothing related to my record, just stuff like where have you been, why, how long etc etc…
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they were having some sort of purge stopping everyone checking trailers etc…
My ex bosses lad got pulled bringing back a knife from his hols…months later when shipping into Immingham I got pulled and a thorough and I mean thorough cab search in which they pulled every panel in the cab to pieces. When they found nothing and put it all back together I asked why they had spent so much time on my truck and they told me it was because of the bosses lad had been caught months back. Just goes to show how much customs do actually know
Its all a consipacy i tell you !!!
Madguy
They only will know anything that is held on the PNC (Police national computer) and after 5yrs ( date of conviction) most less serious crimes are considered spent, and records are eventually deleted from the computer data base, if they consider you to be a dormant subject, but the info of those crimes will still be kept somewhere, for reference , but will not show on the results of the search, it may just indicate that the individual is known only , some crimes never get spent they are held on file for life
jessicas dad:
matt3903:
jessicas dad:
i got a customs check coming in at midnight at liverpool from ireland, the customs officer asked if i had any convictions i said no. he then came back 5 mins later and asked about spent crime from 1992, which i told him was spent, he said its never spent.btw im not saying about 1992
I went to Ireland twice last year, never got stopped or questioned, but coming back from Greece on holiday the guy at passport control in Birmingham spent ages asking questions - nothing related to my record, just stuff like where have you been, why, how long etc etc…
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they were having some sort of purge stopping everyone checking trailers etc…
Liverpool used to be a proper pain to ship back into, with coppers everywhere and special branch blokes, mind you that was when they were lobbing bombs at each other for fun
tommy t:
They only will know anything that is held on the PNC (Police national computer) and after 5yrs ( date of conviction) most less serious crimes are considered spent, and records are eventually deleted from the computer data base, if they consider you to be a dormant subject, but the info of those crimes will still be kept somewhere, for reference , but will not show on the results of the search, it may just indicate that the individual is known only , some crimes never get spent they are held on file for life
I see offenders pnc records on a daily basis, nothing ever gets deleted, reprimands from childhood to cautions. Most people don’t realise that a caution is a conviction, it’s a crime you’ve admitted to but the police have not prosecuted.
Fileep:
I see offenders pnc records on a daily basis, nothing ever gets deleted, reprimands from childhood to cautions. Most people don’t realise that a caution is a conviction, it’s a crime you’ve admitted to but the police have not prosecuted.
As Fileep says, nothing is ever deleted from your criminal record, including cautions. If you are offered a caution, it is not getting away scot free - it leaves you with a criminal record. Don’t accept a caution if you have done nothing wrong just to make the matter go away at that time - you may later regret that caution. It is wise to take legal advice before accepting a caution.
The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 sets time limits after which a conviction is deemed ‘spent’: cautions are spent immediately, other convictions are spent on a sliding scale from five years (most non-custodial sentences) to never (imprisonment of more than 2.5 years). However, a spent conviction is only spent, and therefore non-disclosable, for certain purposes.
A spent conviction is only spent in the UK - it is only spent in the UK, so a spent conviction may prevent you from getting a visa to visit certain countries - the USA is particularly prone to decline those with a criminal record.
A spent conviction will show on a CRB check and may prevent you from getting a taxi licence, a private hire licence, or a PCV driving job that brings you into contact with children or vulnerable adults.
A spent conviction may be material to an application for a licence for firearms, shotguns or explosives, or to adopt or foster children. A spent conviction is also material to being a member of professions, including medicine, nursing, teaching, the legal professions - even being a steward at a football match.
Failure to disclose a spent conviction to an employer when you are not entitled by law to withhold that conviction is likely to be deemed gross misconduct and could be grounds for termination.
This criminal record? Does it include being listed on any register?
djw:
Failure to disclose a spent conviction to an employer when you are not entitled by law to withhold that conviction is likely to be deemed gross misconduct and could be grounds for termination.
You can also be prosecuted if you lie on an application form as you have obtained pecuniary advantange, obtained money by false representation.
Wheel Nut:
This criminal record? Does it include being listed on any register?
I have seen some with and some without, normally the Probation Officer writing the Court report will have a copy of pre-cons to enable him/her to write the Pre-Sentence Report and it all depends on the individual concerned. As for CRB’s I don’t have anything to do with them at all.