Conor:
If its such a con and not needed then why did every single one of the 15 drivers doing the driving hours course I did have a question about EU drivers hours and the WTD?..
Thank you Conor…I’m getting sick of drivers thinking this dCPC is just a con when the amount of threads on this forum showing a lack of understanding of basic driving skills, drivers hours, load security, WTD is massive.
The dCPC is the best thing to happen to our industry and for those that got it for free and had a good instructor they will be much better drivers for it.
For those that think they already know it all it may be an eye opener or just perhaps they will retire into insignificance as the dinousaurs they are.
Drivers of today have inherited a tradition of long hours for low pay from the old hands who funnily enough winge about it and blame everyone but themselves. The dCPC just may give us enough of a footing to demand a higher wage.
I could be wrong and time will tell but the sooner these chuffin know it all / unwilling to learn / self righteous pricks are out of our industry the better…
[Apologies to all the self righteous pricks out there]
ROG:
If the main issue is the drivers not knowing the regs then it only needs one proper training session with a proper test - certainly not 35 hours!
The dopey [zb] at the EU could not figure out that initial mod 2 should be just that
+1 on that, Also 7hrs is enough time for load restraints too , The whole 35hrs every 5yrs for every driver of vehicles that fall under the scope, is pure bollox designed to make government and training companies a lot of money and not much else, over the past 3 mths i endured the mind numbing 35hrs of this bs, leared nothing of any real value,after all a lot of the associated things around driving a lorry are basic common sense , the worst DCPC module was the elf & saftey one that dragged so much it felt more like 7 days not 7hrs, More like punishment than training, On my last course i slept my way through part of it, as i only got home at around 3 am and had to be on the road again at 6.30am to get to the training centre
ROG:
The dcpc is more of a tick box exercise costing money
In your opinion…
For me it was extremely enlightening.
Course I should have known all the stuff already but what surprised me was after 10 years away and 6 months on this forum I knew more than the regular drivers on the course.
Most of that is from your posts ROG so no offence intended
ROG:
The dcpc is more of a tick box exercise costing money
In your opinion…
For me it was extremely enlightening.
Course I should have known all the stuff already but what surprised me was after 10 years away and 6 months on this forum I knew more than the regular drivers on the course.
Most of that is from your posts ROG so no offence intended
Now that you do know the stuff how much more useful will future courses be on what you actually need?
ROG:
Now that you do know the stuff how much more useful will future courses be on what you actually need?
Although I’m covered till 2019 I’m keeping my fingers crossed that my next course will be relevant to new traffic conditions and not a repeat of what i did 5 years before (or last month in realtime). But I may just opt for an ADR or different course.
ROG:
Now that you do know the stuff how much more useful will future courses be on what you actually need?
Although I’m covered till 2019 I’m keeping my fingers crossed that my next course will be relevant to new traffic conditions and not a repeat of what i did 5 years before (or last month in realtime). But I may just opt for an ADR or different course.
Chances are though it will be scrapped by then.
If the laws do not change then you are likely to be sitting through the same again unless you want to pay a lot for something more interesting
Doing ADR - all that gets is a tick box for dcpc and costs more for the course because nothing is added to the basic ADR course that was not there before dcpc
alfnat:
As we all know the money making con than is the cpc starts on the 10th sept,but does this include our oversea drivers as i have heard than a few countries have knocked the starting date back.Or will are nice vosa men pull them.
This rumour that certain countries have knocked back the start date keeps doing the rounds on here and other places, probably started by drivers who still believe it will happen here or just have a persecution complex.
The start date in Germany, the Netherlands and Belgium has always been 2016, it was an option under the directive, most other countries including us didn’t take it. Get over it.
Cover it sounds like you got a good course, I didn’t feel I got any benefit from mine, but it’s done and I’m planning to try and do more useful courses for the next 5 years.
dri-diddly-iver:
Conor! I know you - or should I say you are 1 of 2 people. I’m undecided which one you are
Is one of them of a superior air, opinionated, extremely patronizing towards drivers and bores the arse off everybody by preaching perceived benefits of the dcpc at every sodding opportunity as if it is the prelude to the second coming of Christ?..just wondered.
hitch:
the way i see it
if your from a country that implements the system
then you should have it to drive in the uk from Sept.
if your country holds out to 2015/16 then after the relevant date you should have it
what this country should do, is stop drivers coming on to the uk roads that are from countries that are holding out until 2015/16 unless they hold a dcpc
No Driver can prosecuted until after 10th September 2016.
2.8. CPC certifying periodic training – Article 8
Members States issue the CPC to drivers who have completed the periodic training.
The periodic training must be taken by new drivers within five years after obtaining the CPC
for initial qualification, and by drivers who hold acquired rights, following the timetable set
by their Member States.
The Directive exempts from the requirement to obtain the initial qualification any drivers who
hold a category D driving licence issued before September 2008 and drivers who hold a
category C driving licence issued before September 2009. For drivers with such acquired
rights, Member States have adopted national timetables for completing the first course of
periodic training by the deadline of 2015 (category D driving licence) and 2016 (category C
driving licence).
Mutual recognition of the transitional periods decided by the Member States has been
agreed21. Accordingly, until the deadline of 2015 (vehicle category D) and 2016 (vehicle
category C), drivers cannot be penalised in any Member State for not having completed the
periodic training.
Member States have chosen different criteria to establish their national timetables for the
periodic training of drivers holding acquired rights. These can be based for instance on the
date on which the driving licence was issued, on the driver’s birthday, on the driving licence
expiry date, on the age of the driver, or on the driving licence number.
National timetables are included in the Annex.
Dave.
hitch:
the way i see it
if your from a country that implements the system
then you should have it to drive in the uk from Sept.
if your country holds out to 2015/16 then after the relevant date you should have it
what this country should do, is stop drivers coming on to the uk roads that are from countries that are holding out until 2015/16 unless they hold a dcpc
You say “holding out” implying that it is some kind of avoidance tactic, it isn’t, it is the individual criteria for a particular EU country.
