^^^ The David Parrott in the article is a drama student. A search of social media shows that barely ten days after the article he’d made a miraculous recovery and was partying hard. It’s a miracle I tell ya
DCPCFML:
yourhavingalarf:
DCPCFML:
Just tell the guinea pigs to keep taking their experimental gene therapy jabs and nature will take care of the rest in due course.In…
Due course.
Have you got a date for that? A rough time frame? A period of time when the 30+ million will all fall over?
Gimme a clue so I can stop paying the house insurance, lock the side door and put the cat out.
Within 3 years.
On a similar note…
bidstats.uk/tenders/2021/W23/752550337
£6m government contract for temporary body storage facilities in the 32 boroughs of London. Contract : lasting 4 years from July 2021, one off.
“Description
The Authority seeks to procure a framework agreement for temporary body storage in the event of an excess deaths situation for the 32 London boroughs and the City of London, led by Westminster City Council.”
Hmm, “in the event of an excess deaths situation” ? I wonder what that could be? Hmm? I’m sure there’s absolutely no connection though, just purely coincidental. I mean, the government regularly issues multi-million tender requests for temporary body storage facilities, it’s a regular thing. Definitely nothing to see here, move along.
The awake ones here will quickly be able to join the dots while the rest continue to sleep, keep wearing their pointless face nappies and lining up for their experimental gene therapy program like good obedient guinea pigs. No-one seems to listen, no-one seems to care. :shrug:
ArcticMonkey:
jakethesnake:
COVID-19: 'Patients are younger and sicker than in the first wave' | UK News | Sky NewsJust one of many sources.
I don’t doubt that the story is real but i do doubt Sly news for giving an impartial view on any topic, the same goes for bbc news.
These companies are scaremongering and will be pressured from higher powers to report a biased view of covid in order to get the younger people vaccinated. They’ll use all types of subtle messages and the more scare stories they show then the more likely people will take an experimental vaccine.
Out of interest, have Sly news or bbc reported on any people dying or suffering horrendous effects from the vaccines just for balance?
I certainly heard more than one report about deaths from blood clots on the BBC. And in the interest of balance there are “yellow card” reports of nearly 70 deaths following covid vaccinations.
gov.uk/government/publicati … -reporting
Those reports are not definitive causal links, but are reports, none the less.
And in the interest of balance that is against over 150,000 covid deaths. (Within 28 days of positive test)
And that doesn’t take account of the “horrendous effects” of C19. It doesn’t mention the many thousands who have been intubated in intensive care, or have long covid, etc etc.
70 vs 150,000.
How much time should be devoted to a cause of 70 deaths, as opposed to a cause of 150,000 deaths?
Go get your jabs. They will protect you and save you from the deadly virus. Go, now.
One of my friends with goes gym, mountaineering, outdoor sports etc, very fit … was hospitalised for 2 weeks due to covid, now has long covid and cant exercise for so long… only 40
I had it of for 2 weeks. just aches and temperature… and not as fit ads him. it affects every one differently, same as vaccines.
ArcticMonkey:
If others have been vaccinated then they don’t need protecting from me for not wearing a mask.
I’m pretty sure i’ll be ok if i do catch covid, i’m mid 40’s, fit and healthy.
Fitter,at my local mertrux,got it…and reckoned,he thought his time was up.
My mates Mrs got it…and didn’t even know…until she tested positive,at work.
ArcticMonkey:
jakethesnake:
COVID-19: 'Patients are younger and sicker than in the first wave' | UK News | Sky NewsJust one of many sources.
I don’t doubt that the story is real but i do doubt Sly news for giving an impartial view on any topic, the same goes for bbc news.
These companies are scaremongering and will be pressured from higher powers to report a biased view of covid in order to get the younger people vaccinated. They’ll use all types of subtle messages and the more scare stories they show then the more likely people will take an experimental vaccine.
Out of interest, have Sly news or bbc reported on any people dying or suffering horrendous effects from the vaccines just for balance?
Believe what you want I don’t really care. Maybe try talking to someone you can trust that works in a covid ward. They might change your mind.
The majority are taking the vaccines (which have been through the same rigorous test as any other previous vaccine) which are proven to work very well and any who have had extreme side effects are very rare. Most youngsters are queuing to get one. The suffering and deaths from covid far outweighs any suffering from the vaccine.
As I’ve said before on here why do you think every top medical person throughout the world has taken the vaccine even the ones that manufacture them. Simply because they know more than us.
Franglais:
ArcticMonkey:
jakethesnake:
COVID-19: 'Patients are younger and sicker than in the first wave' | UK News | Sky NewsJust one of many sources.
I don’t doubt that the story is real but i do doubt Sly news for giving an impartial view on any topic, the same goes for bbc news.
These companies are scaremongering and will be pressured from higher powers to report a biased view of covid in order to get the younger people vaccinated. They’ll use all types of subtle messages and the more scare stories they show then the more likely people will take an experimental vaccine.
Out of interest, have Sly news or bbc reported on any people dying or suffering horrendous effects from the vaccines just for balance?
I certainly heard more than one report about deaths from blood clots on the BBC. And in the interest of balance there are “yellow card” reports of nearly 70 deaths following covid vaccinations.
gov.uk/government/publicati … -reporting
Those reports are not definitive causal links, but are reports, none the less.
And in the interest of balance that is against over 150,000 covid deaths. (Within 28 days of positive test)
And that doesn’t take account of the “horrendous effects” of C19. It doesn’t mention the many thousands who have been intubated in intensive care, or have long covid, etc etc.70 vs 150,000.
How much time should be devoted to a cause of 70 deaths, as opposed to a cause of 150,000 deaths?
150000 haven’t died from covid though have they?. I wish to know the actual figure where it is 100% proven that it is covid which killed them. The figure is likely to be much lower.
jakethesnake:
ArcticMonkey:
jakethesnake:
COVID-19: 'Patients are younger and sicker than in the first wave' | UK News | Sky NewsJust one of many sources.
I don’t doubt that the story is real but i do doubt Sly news for giving an impartial view on any topic, the same goes for bbc news.
These companies are scaremongering and will be pressured from higher powers to report a biased view of covid in order to get the younger people vaccinated. They’ll use all types of subtle messages and the more scare stories they show then the more likely people will take an experimental vaccine.
Out of interest, have Sly news or bbc reported on any people dying or suffering horrendous effects from the vaccines just for balance?
Believe what you want I don’t really care. Maybe try talking to someone you can trust that works in a covid ward. They might change your mind.
The majority are taking the vaccines (which have been through the same rigorous test as any other previous vaccine) which are proven to work very well and any who have had extreme side effects are very rare. Most youngsters are queuing to get one. The suffering and deaths from covid far outweighs any suffering from the vaccine.As I’ve said before on here why do you think every top medical person throughout the world has taken the vaccine even the ones that manufacture them. Simply because they know more than us.
Plenty of scientists and doctors are speaking out against the vaccines, saying we won’t know the long term effects until years down the line. These experts are not given the airtime on mainstream media but they are given airtime on lesser known USA news channels
Jake I’m sat somewhere well in between the ‘‘The End is nigh’’ doom mongers, and the fanatical ‘I’II believe everything I’m told by the authorities’’ crew on all this as I’ve said on here.
I’ve had the jabs and been ridiculed for it, but hey, So what? 
, it’s a ‘Couldn’t give a ■■■■/Water off a ducks arse’’ stance from myself,…I have my own theories and beliefs on all this.
However…
You say you ‘‘know’’ that wearing masks is effective and necessary, you don’t ‘‘know’’ you believe,.which is a world of difference.
You say you have had 2 jabs,.so how will you catch it if the jabs are working?
As for you ‘maybe being infectious’, …
People have had ample time to have had the jab if they want it, the ones who have not are those who have their own theories against it, of which they are entitled, those who can’t be arsed, and young 18+ kids, who stand a bloody good chance of just fielding it if they catch it anyyway,.
So… if those groups ain’t bothered, why do you think it is your ‘duty’ to in your own mind ''Protect them?
As I’ve said,.I went along with the face covering after an elderly vulnerable relative told me she felt safer around people, all those types have been jabbed now,.so basically I don’t give a ■■■■ and just walk around as normal.
As for hospitals being full of young people, not where I live,.and all the kids are out at weekends just cracking on as normal not caring,.as I would and did when I was their ages.
Also I’m out the odd nigh and some weekends not caring, because I’m ■■■■■■ off with it, I’ve gone along with the jab,.so I’ve paid my money and took my chance.
If I’ve got it all wrong and come a mega cropper…so be it,.that’s life (or death in this case 
)
So to sum up.
If you want the jab have it. If you don’t, then dont.
If you do or don’t …discuss it on the forum yeh…but dont keep banging on about it in a patronising way, because we don’t care about your theories on either side for the reasons I’ve pointed out. 
^^^^ and as a footnote in the form of a correction, this jab hasn’t been 15 years in the development or 2 years in the testing (Polio) or 100 years in the making (smallpox)
So hasn’t gone through all the same rigorous tests and development as other vaccines. (note I used the two vaccines you quoted in an earlier post, just to highlight your shoddy comparisons)
You say you have had 2 jabs,.so how will you catch it if the jabs are working?
Don’t have much time at present but just to answer the above…
Having the 2 jabs should protect you from serious illness or death but it does not necessarily stop you getting the virus or spreading it.
My sister back in Scotland was telling me about a group of guys (in their 50’s) that went down to wembley for the football. All double jabbed. When they got back they all tested positive apart from one.
Thankfully none are seriously ill thanks to the vaccine.
jakethesnake:
You say you have had 2 jabs,.so how will you catch it if the jabs are working?Don’t have much time at present but just to answer the above…
Having the 2 jabs should protect you from serious illness or death but it does not necessarily stop you getting the virus or spreading it.
My sister back in Scotland was telling me about a group of guys (in their 50’s) that went down to wembley for the football. All double jabbed. When they got back they all tested positive apart from one.
Thankfully none are seriously ill thanks to the vaccine.
So where’s the problem?
This is where the same as or similar to flu thing goes.
If I’m going to catch it with no life threatening or serious effects resulting from it, so be it, my own immune system will help me build up immunity, as it does with other flu like conditions, .along side the effect of the jab.
I ain’t spending the rest if my life (3 years or otherwise ) appointing myself as some mask wearing, hermit crusader ‘‘protecting’’ those who can’t be arsed.
So where’s the problem?
No masks = spread = mutation = possibly no protection from vaccine in time.
jakethesnake:
So where’s the problem?No masks = spread = mutation = possibly no protection from vaccine in time.
It’ll keep on mutating regardless of wearing masks, that’s what viruses do. I have a bingo card with various places on for whenever they make up the name of the next variant. I’ve ticked off Chy-na, Kent, India and Nepal, i’m just waiting for M25 Junction 19 and i’ll have a full house
ArcticMonkey:
Franglais:
ArcticMonkey:
jakethesnake:
COVID-19: 'Patients are younger and sicker than in the first wave' | UK News | Sky NewsJust one of many sources.
I don’t doubt that the story is real but i do doubt Sly news for giving an impartial view on any topic, the same goes for bbc news.
These companies are scaremongering and will be pressured from higher powers to report a biased view of covid in order to get the younger people vaccinated. They’ll use all types of subtle messages and the more scare stories they show then the more likely people will take an experimental vaccine.
Out of interest, have Sly news or bbc reported on any people dying or suffering horrendous effects from the vaccines just for balance?
I certainly heard more than one report about deaths from blood clots on the BBC. And in the interest of balance there are “yellow card” reports of nearly 70 deaths following covid vaccinations.
gov.uk/government/publicati … -reporting
Those reports are not definitive causal links, but are reports, none the less.
And in the interest of balance that is against over 150,000 covid deaths. (Within 28 days of positive test)
And that doesn’t take account of the “horrendous effects” of C19. It doesn’t mention the many thousands who have been intubated in intensive care, or have long covid, etc etc.70 vs 150,000.
How much time should be devoted to a cause of 70 deaths, as opposed to a cause of 150,000 deaths?
150000 haven’t died from covid though have they?. I wish to know the actual figure where it is 100% proven that it is covid which killed them. The figure is likely to be much lower.
The 150,000 covid deaths cannot be proved to 100%.
In the REAL world we (most of us) inhabit, nothing is certain.
During the early stages of the epidemic testing was expensive and scarce. Many died not within the 28 day frame so aren’t included in those figures. Some would have died anyway but are included.
You asking for absolute proof, are asking for what is non realistically obtainable, no matter the truth. You are not being reasonable.
The covid deaths are maybe better shown here
euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps
The excess deaths graphs show a clear increase in mortality.
No need to perform post mortem on every body. Thousands more died than expected. Nothing much happening except covid to cause such. In fact fewer road accidents, work and sporting injuries etc but deaths increase. Explanation?
.
Asking for evidence is good.
Expecting 100% pure proof is not.
jakethesnake:
You say you have had 2 jabs,.so how will you catch it if the jabs are working?Don’t have much time at present but just to answer the above…
Having the 2 jabs should protect you from serious illness or death but it does not necessarily stop you getting the virus or spreading it.
My sister back in Scotland was telling me about a group of guys (in their 50’s) that went down to wembley for the football. All double jabbed. When they got back they all tested positive apart from one.
Thankfully none are seriously ill thanks to the vaccine.
As you don’t have much time to answer, how about you don’t answer anything and FO back to where you come from. Your a patronising prick, a fake and a fraud you just can’t admit it.
Franglais:
Asking for evidence is good.
Expecting 100% pure proof is not.
This might be a challenging concept to try to communicate effectively on TN, but I can’t resist trying it: in truth, science does not claim to “prove” anything.
Properly done, the scientific method identifies a “problem” or “situation”, does research to gather data on this problem, and tests the data against “the null hypothesis”, which as the name suggests starts from the position of a “null” or “nil” position, ie that there is no relationship between Thing 1 (eg testing positive for Covid) and Thing 2 (eg death)
The statistical tests on the data again don’t prove or disprove anything, what they do is to give you a probability, (stated as “p value” ) of whether the results you’re seeing could have come about purely by chance. p=0.05 means there’s only a 5% chance that the null hypothesis is true, and you can reject the null hypothesis with 95% confidence, much better is p=0.01, which means there’s only a 1% probability that the data is due to chance.
In practical terms, for a jobbing scientist, p=0.05 get’s you the thumbs up but there might still be some chin-rubbing and humm-ing and haar-ing, whereas p=0.01 means “Nice one! Let’s head straight to the pub to celebrate!”
A p value larger than 0.05 is nothing worth sharing, except to say “that didn’t work”
robroy:
Jake I’m sat somewhere well in between the ‘‘The End is nigh’’ doom mongers, and the fanatical ‘I’II believe everything I’m told by the authorities’’ crew on all this as I’ve said on here.I’ve had the jabs and been ridiculed for it, but hey, So what?
However…
You say you ‘‘know’’ that wearing masks is effective and necessary, you don’t ‘‘know’’ you believe,.which is a world of difference.You say you have had 2 jabs,.so how will you catch it if the jabs are working?
As for you ‘maybe being infectious’, …
People have had ample time to have had the jab if they want it, the ones who have not are those who have their own theories against it, of which they are entitled, those who can’t be arsed, and young 18+ kids, who stand a bloody good chance of just fielding it if they catch it anyyway,.
So… if those groups ain’t bothered, why do you think it is your ‘duty’ to in your own mind ''Protect them?As I’ve said,.I went along with the face covering after an elderly vulnerable relative told me she felt safer around people, all those types have been jabbed now,.so basically I don’t give a [zb] and just walk around as normal.
As for hospitals being full of young people, not where I live,.and all the kids are out at weekends just cracking on as normal not caring,.as I would and did when I was their ages.
Also I’m out the odd nigh and some weekends not caring, because I’m ■■■■■■ off with it, I’ve gone along with the jab,.so I’ve paid my money and took my chance.
If I’ve got it all wrong and come a mega cropper…so be it,.that’s life (or death in this case
So to sum up.
If you want the jab have it. If you don’t, then dont.
If you do or don’t …discuss it on the forum yeh…but dont keep banging on about it in a patronising way, because we don’t care about your theories on either side for the reasons I’ve pointed out.
As sober and rational appraisal of events as wouldn’t disgrace King Solomon himself.Respect.
shopping today one old bat was doing her best to hinder other shoppers progress as has become the norm,making passage difficult with a sticking out trolley it was refreshing to see a bloke kick her trolley aside ,"gettoutofit "