Start back on Bin Lorries from Monday and although I’ve done it before it was a few years ago now and just want to seek some clarification. Domestic pickups are done under ‘out of scope’ on the tacho unit and only break that needs to be taken is that of the WTD? Or have I got it wrong… as I say it’s been a good few years now.
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When I worked on Worthing BC we had log books so domestic rules but like you it was 11 years ago
blue estate:
When I worked on Worthing BC we had log books so domestic rules but like you it was 11 years ago
Southampton was the same around the same time too
Portsmouth used tachos though but that was biffa, not local council. Seemingly being a private contractor made a difference although I am not clear on why that would be 
Some bin lorry driver tips;
Drive along with hazard lights on so other road users can’t tell when you wish to indicate.
Pull away while traffic is passing you.
Stop on or very close to zebra crossings to make it harder for motorists to spot pedestrians.
Park on fuel pumps in local service stations then have the entire crew sit about in the Mild Lean Coffee area, while real lorry drivers are held up behind you.
When on recycling it is prudent to always leave some rubbish behind in the box so it can blow down the street.
Find any excuse not to empty someones’ bin.
Throw down food waste caddys so the lids break.
Never put any bins back where you find them.
The first collection after Xmas, make as much noise and mess outside the households that left you no tips.
my nieces fellas on bins ,says they use a book
Door to door is exempt EU rules and therefore under domestic rules.
The Road Transport WTD does not apply therefore no specific break requirement.
The employer may still require you to use the Tacho - some do. If not then log books are required and the Tacho would be best set out of scope.
Its usually Domestic Rules so a Drivers Log Book is used for recording duty time. As for breaks, you are quite correct in saying WTD rules apply (break after six hours of work) although if its 'task and ‘um’ then its quite common to battle on to get finished - but I wouldn’t be surprised if you were before six hours was up!!! 
andy288*:
Its usually Domestic Rules so a Drivers Log Book is used for recording duty time. As for breaks, you are quite correct in saying WTD rules apply (break after six hours of work) although if its 'task and ‘um’ then its quite common to battle on to get finished - but I wouldn’t be surprised if you were before six hours was up!!!
Yep your right on that only took breaks on the longer days , the sort days where a pre 12 pm finish was likely then we just ploughed through and if that was a Thursday I a sin tescos by 2 pm doing weekly shop [emoji3]
Years ago I did a bit of bin wagon driving thru an agency (who said that 
) and it was a struggle to get the others to take a break at all ! Sod that job, went home stinking of garbage and never had so many showers and baths in my whole life, apart from when harvesting barley on an open driving position Massey Harris 855 combine harvester.
andy288*:
As for breaks, you are quite correct in saying WTD rules apply (break after six hours of work)
The Road Transport WTD rules for breaks from work do not apply when driving under GB Domestic Rules. They only apply to a driver or mobile worker operating under EU 561/2006.
When operating under GB Domestic rules four provisions of the 1998 WTD apply. These are average 48 hour week (which can be opted out of), 5.6 weeks paid annual leave, health checks for night workers and an entitlement to adequate rest. That’s it - nothing about breaks from work.
The GB Domestic rules limit the driver to 10 hours maximum driving in a 24 hour period starting from when the shift began and a maximum 11 hours duty but do not stipulate rest periods. Don’t forget the rules for ‘duty’ and driving are completely the opposite than under the EU Rules. Under GB Domestic duty does not include breaks and driving includes any time spent at the controls for the purpose of controlling the vehicle. So sitting in traffic is driving under GB Domestic, but not under EU!
Muckaway:
Some bin lorry driver tips;
Drive along with hazard lights on so other road users can’t tell when you wish to indicate.
Pull away while traffic is passing you.
Stop on or very close to zebra crossings to make it harder for motorists to spot pedestrians.
Park on fuel pumps in local service stations then have the entire crew sit about in the Mild Lean Coffee area, while real lorry drivers are held up behind you.
When on recycling it is prudent to always leave some rubbish behind in the box so it can blow down the street.
Find any excuse not to empty someones’ bin.
Throw down food waste caddys so the lids break.
Never put any bins back where you find them.
The first collection after Xmas, make as much noise and mess outside the households that left you no tips.
You forgot the ring the door bell at 6.15 am and say can you move your van we can’t get round number. When you’ve thrown some clothes on and found your keys, they say s’all right guv he’s managed it.
Muckaway:
Some bin lorry driver tips;
Drive along with hazard lights on so other road users can’t tell when you wish to indicate.
Pull away while traffic is passing you.
Stop on or very close to zebra crossings to make it harder for motorists to spot pedestrians.
Park on fuel pumps in local service stations then have the entire crew sit about in the Mild Lean Coffee area, while real lorry drivers are held up behind you.
When on recycling it is prudent to always leave some rubbish behind in the box so it can blow down the street.
Find any excuse not to empty someones’ bin.
Throw down food waste caddys so the lids break.
Never put any bins back where you find them.
The first collection after Xmas, make as much noise and mess outside the households that left you no tips.
They come from the same mould as tipper drivers. Not very bright.
Tris:
Muckaway:
Some bin lorry driver tips;
Drive along with hazard lights on so other road users can’t tell when you wish to indicate.
Pull away while traffic is passing you.
Stop on or very close to zebra crossings to make it harder for motorists to spot pedestrians.
Park on fuel pumps in local service stations then have the entire crew sit about in the Mild Lean Coffee area, while real lorry drivers are held up behind you.
When on recycling it is prudent to always leave some rubbish behind in the box so it can blow down the street.
Find any excuse not to empty someones’ bin.
Throw down food waste caddys so the lids break.
Never put any bins back where you find them.
The first collection after Xmas, make as much noise and mess outside the households that left you no tips.They come from the same mould as tipper drivers. Not very bright.
Pot Kettle
tango boy:
Tris:
Muckaway:
Some bin lorry driver tips;
Drive along with hazard lights on so other road users can’t tell when you wish to indicate.
Pull away while traffic is passing you.
Stop on or very close to zebra crossings to make it harder for motorists to spot pedestrians.
Park on fuel pumps in local service stations then have the entire crew sit about in the Mild Lean Coffee area, while real lorry drivers are held up behind you.
When on recycling it is prudent to always leave some rubbish behind in the box so it can blow down the street.
Find any excuse not to empty someones’ bin.
Throw down food waste caddys so the lids break.
Never put any bins back where you find them.
The first collection after Xmas, make as much noise and mess outside the households that left you no tips.They come from the same mould as tipper drivers. Not very bright.
Pot Kettle
