Own Account Driver:
It was done with the aim of encouraging younger drivers into the industry, it’s all there in black and white in the original EU directive.
5) More particularly, the obligation to hold an initial qualification and to undergo periodic training is intended to improve road safety and the safety of the driver, including during operations carried out by the driver while the vehicle is stopped. Furthermore, the modern nature of the profession of driver should arouse young people’s interest in the profession, contributing to the recruitment of new drivers at a time of shortage.
So it was only part of the aim.
Own Account Driver:
No study was ever done that identified any need for additional training for existing drivers nor does the original directive make any reference to it.
From the same document, so not quite sure where you are coming from on this one?
(9) In order to maintain their qualification of driver, existing drivers should be obliged to undergo periodic retraining in the skills essential for their profession.
Own Account Driver:
It was done with the aim of encouraging younger drivers into the industry, it’s all there in black and white in the original EU directive.
5) More particularly, the obligation to hold an initial qualification and to undergo periodic training is intended to improve road safety and the safety of the driver, including during operations carried out by the driver while the vehicle is stopped. Furthermore, the modern nature of the profession of driver should arouse young people’s interest in the profession, contributing to the recruitment of new drivers at a time of shortage.
So it was only part of the aim.
Own Account Driver:
No study was ever done that identified any need for additional training for existing drivers nor does the original directive make any reference to it.
From the same document, so not quite sure where you are coming from on this one?
(9) In order to maintain their qualification of driver, existing drivers should be obliged to undergo periodic retraining in the skills essential for their profession.
That just re-iterates exactly what I have said. The aim was to encourage new young drivers and no research or study was ever carried out to establish if there was any sort of genuine need for further training for existing drivers or that road safety was adversely affected by the absence of it.
If you also find the EU’s own review on the implementation you will see the concern that it may actually be discouraging new young drivers.
Mr B:
It could never have been stopped because in the face of it, it’s not a bad idea. A campaign to stop truck drivers being taught how to control their death machines was never going to get popular support so was always doomed to fail.
Yes, but they’ll soon change their tune on the death machines when the supermarket shelves are empty and the stuff that is on them is more expensive.
People talk as their belly guides them or more accurately they’re full of crap.
It was thought up by the same people who almost brought in a tax to sell you’re house but the house selling pack affected nice normal people not just drivers so that died and we got regular shaftings just to do our jobs
Own Account Driver:
and no research or study was ever carried out to establish if there was any sort of genuine need for further training for existing drivers or that road safety was adversely affected by the absence of it.
robroy:
You make this sweeping generalization that anybody who disagrees with the dcpc or has the opinion of it holding a hidden financial agenda is either thick or in this case a ‘gobshyte’
Please tell me what this financial agenda is? I keep hearing the same old crap about it being allegedly done to get rid of older drivers but that makes no sense as they’re not excluded from doing it. It certainly isn’t to lower pay in the industry because that’s gone up as a result of the DCPC. So what is this financial agenda?
Firstly where did I ever say it was to do with getting rid of older drivers?
You said yourself it cost you £300, maybe you were willing to fork out but most of us were less willing to pay to go on a course to learn how to do a job we have done for x no. of years.
You keep banging on about everybody in the job being ignorant of all things transport, well this may be difficult for you personally to grasp but you have not got the monopoly on comprehension and knowledge of drivers hours regs etc .
You have this generalization of opinion that everybody that has done the job for more than 5 mins is totally ignorant of drivers hours rules, admittedly there are a few that are as thick as, and they are the ones that tend to stand out more, but certainly not all older drivers, as you seem to think, and continually tell us at every opportunity, in fact the more knowledgeable are in the majority.
The only ones that have benefited from this crap are those that have made a new career out of it and a very lucrative one at that when you consider the rates that are being charged to the amount of drivers that have undertook it, and the revenue raised by this is a bonus to the government.
As for pay going up, not in all cases, but where it is prevalent it’s a consequence of a lot of drivers saying ■■■■ it, rather than an intention or a result of the dcpc’s concept or existence.
QUESTION FOR CONOR.
Don’t suppose I will get an answer as you rarely do when the concencus of opinion is contrary to yours.
If you had your own business and needed a driver to do trips abroad.
You had 2 possible candidates.
A guy that had done it all, tilts, fridges, tauts, rope & sheet etc for the last 25 30 years (you know the type Conor, those that are gobshytes in your dcpc sessions) who admitted that he was not up to Conor standard on the intricacies of driver hours and wtd regs, but knew the basic regs and had managed to cope without any offences.
The second guy, a young minimally experienced driver, who had been sold on the dcpc idea, and embraced it, to the point of boring the arses off anybody that would listen to it’s benefits (you know…much like yourself) and claimed he could quote wtd/driver’s hours parrot fashion, but had no idea how to strip out a tilt.
Who would you take on, I would imagine after continually telling us that all older experienced drivers talked out of their arses I would expect it to be the opposite one to who I would take on.
Sadly we are just a bunch of sad little computer pricks with nothing better to do with our lifes then troll the net and talk about it but not actully doing it
this is why we have such a low status among society and why we are so week it makes it that easy for the gastapo at dutcher haulage ltd (DHL) to treat us like prisoners of war
with the hum dingers on agency blue chip and the scum bags on general haulage; there is no chance of a better together campain
come on say it! (yes that mean you) I am a sad little pick and a waste of space coz I would not help my fellow friend in need
come on now lets see how many little snarky comments that fetches and he he he ho ho hos
which will only prove my point
Are yes of cource typical denyal; why defend the un-defenceless and just keep quiet
end of thread conversation, no more postings enough said
Sadly we are just a bunch of sad little computer pricks with nothing better to do with our lifes then troll the net and talk about it but not actully doing it
this is why we have such a low status among society and why we are so week it makes it that easy for the gastapo at dutcher haulage ltd (DHL) to treat us like prisoners of war
with the hum dingers on agency blue chip and the scum bags on general haulage; there is no chance of a better together campain
come on say it! (yes that mean you) I am a sad little pick and a waste of space coz I would not help my fellow friend in need
come on now lets see how many little snarky comments that fetches and he he he ho ho hos
which will only prove my point
Are yes of cource typical denyal; why defend the un-defenceless and just keep quiet
end of thread conversation, no more postings enough said
It’s only Boss and driver bless him, under his other guise, just ignore his incomprehensible rantings, he probably hasn’t had his medication yet
B&G is not doing well in this life of a world in cyber space putting up with the daily bull of facebook and utube and trucknet
he dose not have long left in this life I tell you; he is allready on pre mod
his great god farther batista230 is watching over him though
under his other guise, just ignore his incomprehensible rantings, he probably hasn’t had his medication yet 