If you’re waiting for a box and need the loo, obviously you’d drive round to the toilet block and return to your location afterwards. Doesn’t everyone do this?
Behave
Tongue in cheek
eddie snax:
As for freely able to dispose of your time and being able to leave the vehicle, this can be awkward during a rolling break while double manning.
Doesn’t this proviso relate to daily rest?
Well I’ll consider myself educated, because all these years I read that rule wrong, but I’ve not been done for a tahco offence ever yet, so I reckon I must be doing something right, probably not getting caught, even after taking breaks on the terminal.
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The devils in the detail.
weeto:
Thing is, it’s not VOSA’s job to police FDRC’S policies on the terminal, and also the only place I’ve seen these stay in your cab notices, is on an RTG leg, if there is no crane about you would be free to leave your truck, just like you can when you are reconfiguring a skelly.
Yes obviously, which is why the port police when cruising the terminal will instruct you to return to your vehicle when out of the cab chatting with the driver off a nearby truck, even though there is no ■■■■■■ anywhere to be seen. I mean if you were silly enough to over shoot your bay by “say” 5 spaces in the fork park dont even think about backing up on to it, because the FT driver will call the port police to come and give a ticking off, I know coz I made that mistake, and I have also been asked to move to a safer place than one off those trailer bays in E row whilst reconfiguring a skelly. The safer place advised happened to be by the fence at far end off 266 bays. So dont be under the illusion that they are there to offer any kind off help, some off them are right little jumped up jobs worth’s, not all, there are some great guys there to, but you just dont know who’ who
If you’re waiting for a box and need the loo, obviously you’d drive round to the toilet block and return to your location afterwards. Doesn’t everyone do this?
Behave
As for freely able to dispose of your time and being able to leave the vehicle, this can be awkward during a rolling break while double manning.
Doesn’t this proviso relate to daily rest?
Well I’ll consider myself educated, because all these years I read that rule wrong, but I’ve not been done for a tahco offence ever yet, so I reckon I must be doing something right, probably not getting caught, even after taking breaks on the terminal.
Weeto, you posed a question in the OP, I tried to give you an answer based on what I understood the drivers hours and port rules to be(not what I may or may do myself), but by weight of opinion, I seem be in a minority as to how I understand those rules. My only other comment on this is to work it how you see fit, as only you can ultimatly be responsible for your drivers hours. I’m off to read the driver hours again
Would you say that POA could be used, if you rang customer services and asked for an estimate on how long it would be before an RTG would be to tip/load your box? ive done that in the past when ive been sat there a while, and they have said it will be about 30 mins as they were waiting for the RTG to be refuelled!
weeto:
Thing is, it’s not VOSA’s job to police FDRC’S policies on the terminal, and also the only place I’ve seen these stay in your cab notices, is on an RTG leg, if there is no crane about you would be free to leave your truck, just like you can when you are reconfiguring a skelly.
Yes obviously, which is why the port police when cruising the terminal will instruct you to return to your vehicle when out of the cab chatting with the driver off a nearby truck, even though there is no ■■■■■■ anywhere to be seen. I mean if you were silly enough to over shoot your bay by “say” 5 spaces in the fork park dont even think about backing up on to it, because the FT driver will call the port police to come and give a ticking off, I know coz I made that mistake, and I have also been asked to move to a safer place than one off those trailer bays in E row whilst reconfiguring a skelly. The safer place advised happened to be by the fence at far end off 266 bays. So dont be under the illusion that they are there to offer any kind off help, some off them are right little jumped up jobs worth’s, not all, there are some great guys there to, but you just dont know who’ who
If you’re waiting for a box and need the loo, obviously you’d drive round to the toilet block and return to your location afterwards. Doesn’t everyone do this?
Behave
As for freely able to dispose of your time and being able to leave the vehicle, this can be awkward during a rolling break while double manning.
Doesn’t this proviso relate to daily rest?
Well I’ll consider myself educated, because all these years I read that rule wrong, but I’ve not been done for a tahco offence ever yet, so I reckon I must be doing something right, probably not getting caught, even after taking breaks on the terminal.
Weeto, you posed a question in the OP, I tried to give you an answer based on what I understood the drivers hours and port rules to be(not what I may or may do myself), but by weight of opinion, I seem be in a minority as to how I understand those rules. My only other comment on this is to work it how you see fit, as only you can ultimatly be responsible for your drivers hours. I’m off to read the driver hours again
They probably dont like you, in 20 year of going in there i have never come across any thing you have decribed there, and i have done a trailer reconfig at end of rows, in the emty rows along side the new rail head, in the WXYZ empty area, in fact anywere where traffic flow is quiet, port police/dock security have driven passed and not batted an eye lid as to what i was upto!
weeto:
in 20 year of going in there i have never come across any thing you have decribed there, and i have done a trailer reconfig at end of rows, in the emty rows along side the new rail head, in the WXYZ empty area, in fact anywere where traffic flow is quiet, port police/dock security have driven passed and not batted an eye lid as to what i was upto!
Well all off what I posted has happened to me, they werent thirdhand stories, and I’ve only been doing containers for the 5 years, never had any off that petty jobs worth attitude on dooley or P & O when that was there.
They probably dont like you
i did used to drive a truck with Norwich on the door, and maybe I was pranoid but I did allways think that some off those dockers hated it
Would you say that POA could be used, if you rang customer services and asked for an estimate on how long it would be before an RTG would be to tip/load your box? ive done that in the past when ive been sat there a while, and they have said it will be about 30 mins as they were waiting for the RTG to be refuelled
Blimey you get an estimated time out off them. CS told me one day that the RTG drivers “are a law unto themselves” so didnt know if I’d even get done before shift change, and that just gone 6am, and i’d allready been there an hour
The devils in the detail.
He’s actually riding round trinity waiting to catch me out . So far I’ve remained one step ahead
. So far I’ve remained one step ahead