Confusion over digi tachograph

Oh yeah …
the card goes in a slot and it does go to rest symbol whenever I turn the ignition off.

When you say you went over your hours on friday, was that over 9 hours or over 10 hours, if it was over 9 but under 10 your ok as long as you never went over 4.5 hours accumilated time without a break.

If you reach 10 hours then yes you realy should pull over and take a minimum 9 hours uninterupted rest, bearing in mind the lorry should have a proper sleeper cab, sleeping across the seats of a day cab is an offense in itself

WEEK = the fixed week which is sunday midnight to sunday midnight

If you do say 50 hours actual recorded driving time in one week then the week before and the week after cannot have more than 40 hours actual driving time in each of them because the maximum actual recorded driving time in any two consecutive weeks (any two back to back weeks) is 90 hours

You are allowed to go over 9 hours actual recorded driving time twice in a week but must not go over 10 hours recorded driving time

When you say you have cat C through an old car licence did you mean cat C1 through passing car test before 1997 ?

You will need 35 hours of periodic driver cpc before 09/09/2014 if you wish to drive any LGV commercially after that date and the onus is on the driver to get and pay for it - you might be lucky if in a full time LGV job to have your company pay for it but do not hold your breath !

Well its definitely not a sleeper cab, so id commit an offence either way…aaaaarrrrghhhhhh

Best thing to do is to put your printout up here. All that’s happening with everyone here guessing what you may or may not be doing is complicating things for you.
Once we see what you do, it will be easier to explain and for you to understand.

m1cks:
Best thing to do is to put your printout up here. All that’s happening with everyone here guessing what you may or may not be doing is complicating things for you.
Once we see what you do, it will be easier to explain and for you to understand.

I agree that being able to see a typical day would help

Passed my driving test in 94. So thats when I got c1 .

I will definitely scan and post printout tomorrow, as its not in my posession at the moment.
Thanks everyone.

Edsbrick:
Well its definitely not a sleeper cab, so id commit an offence either way…aaaaarrrrghhhhhh

If needing to go over hours to get back is a regular thing, then yes, there is a problem.
A one off over-hours will normally be fine, but try and cover yourself by notifying your company as soon as it is clear there is going to be a problem, and on that day do a printout and write what happened on it. If you are miles from base then it isn’t unheard of for some companies to send another driver out in a van and have you return in the out-of-scope vehicle.

You’re almost certainly using a Siemens digital tachograph, when you have time have a play with the digital tachograph simulator

When you’re stationary press the down arrow and you will see the screen in the image.

  • The red arrow shows the driving time since the last 45 minute break or rest period.
  • The blue arrow shows the length of the current break so far.

When you’re driving (and it’s safe to do so) press the OK button to see the driving time you’ve done since the last 45 minute break or rest period (where the red arrow is pointing to).

So it’s the down arrow when the vehicle is stationary and the OK button when the vehicle is moving :slight_smile:

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i hope you can read this…my tacho that is.

Edsbrick:
i hope you can read this…my tacho that is.

Double click it and it comes up large

Couple of things.
Did you do a manual entry from the night before ?(Doesn’t seem so).
Tacho start time is 0414, allowing for UTC, start time seems to be 0515?
Lastly, did you go into the menu to print off, then pull your card, OR, pull card and do print out as the last question ?
Reason for asking is there’s no end mileage, and no end time to your last driving session (1432 onwards)

edit, just to add, your working day seems to be around 10hours total (ish), this is different to driving time, 9 hours max, unless you extend to 10 max, which you can only do twice between weekly rests (IIRR).

about 3.75 hrs driving
45 min break
about 3.75 hours driving

Total was just under 7.5 hours driving for the shift

Am I about right?

I roughly counted the time for all the circles which are the driving bits
the X hammers are other work and have nothing to do with driving time breaks

All RTD requirements are covered

When you had your first break you had done 3 hours 56 minutes driving, so far so good :smiley:

After your break you did 3 hours 28 minutes driving until 14:32, but we don’t know how much driving you did after that :frowning:

It looks to me as if you stopped the vehicle and immediately did the printout, this is a problem because if you don’t wait a minute or two before doing the printout the tachograph will not be able to include the last period of driving in the calculation.

The last period of driving started at 14:32 but do you have any idea how long that period of driving would have been (the driving period from 14:32) ?

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I haven’t checked the working time hours yet because it’s less important than the driving hours :wink:

I wondered why it stopped at 1432 on the driving symbol …

Have you got a full printout for a normal average day please?

I didnt do anything except print it.im sure my card was still in the tacho. I did start driving at 5.14 that day.
I only priinted it cause the option came up and id no idea wether I had to or not… so I did.
Is the bottom section infringements?
I believe I printed it when back at the yard, so that would have been the end of my working/driving day.

I will printout tomorrow after a full/normal day, and I wont print until ive stopped and made sure its ready.

To know if you have any infringements we need to know how roughly how long the driving period that started at 14:32 was, can you remember what time you finished work on that day ?

The error codes at the bottom of the printout are for periods that the vehicle was driven without a driver card, all the driving without card times are outside of your working day and very short movements, it looks like someone moved the vehicle around the yard for whatever reason, it doesn’t look like anything for you to worry about :wink: