Compulsory masks

dozy:
Daughter said my sister not happy as holiday flights in jan cancelled , told daughter to tell her to wear her mask / have jabs then we wouldn’t be in this position

Masks and jabs have absolutely no correlation to the position we are in, never have and never will. Judging by your post above the amount of time you spend at hospital with your many ailments it’s no wonder you’ve been taking in by the hype and are paranoid about it all. Your sister has every right to be angry about flights getting cancelled, the whole situation is beyond a joke now. If she’s un jabbed and doesn’t wear a mask then it sounds like the brains went to her.

Night-and-day:
Masks and jabs have absolutely no correlation to the position we are in,

OH! Yes They Do!

Night-and-day:
it sounds like the brains went to her.

Where are your brains then?
Behind You!

youtube.com/watch?v=-1YrbM5CTMM

Franglais:

Night-and-day:
Masks and jabs have absolutely no correlation to the position we are in,

OH! Yes They Do!

Night-and-day:
it sounds like the brains went to her.

Where are your brains then?
Behind You!

youtube.com/watch?v=-1YrbM5CTMM

It has been global panto day for 2 years now with this utter facade. My brains are firmly where they should be thanks. You’ve filled this thread with nonsense and meaningless links to propaganda that you’ve fallen for hook line and sinker. I suppose you still think that a fat bearded guy is going to squeeze down your chimney next week, that is the level of gullibility you are showing. Take a step back from the paranoia and see it for what it is, hyped up nonsense for reasons yet unknown.

I suppose the best thing to do would be to say “if you don’t have a vaccine you don’t get hospital treatment”. Then they can all stay at home and stop clogging up the NHS.

Night-and-day:
Take a step back from the paranoia and see it for what it is, hyped up nonsense for reasons yet unknown.

So, you think the world has locked down, altered it`s ways of working, undergone huge changes… “for reasons yet unknown”?..
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paranoia
/ˌparəˈnɔɪə/
noun
a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance, typically worked into an organized system. It may be an aspect of chronic personality disorder, of drug abuse, or of a serious condition such as schizophrenia in which the person loses touch with reality
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Stop sitting on any brains you have left.

Franglais:

Night-and-day:
Masks and jabs have absolutely no correlation to the position we are in,

OH! Yes They Do!

Night-and-day:

Absolutely correct, as long as people keep complying they’ll be complying forever.
This will never end until people have the courage to say NO, for some that will never happen, the indoctrination has gone so far with them they may be incapable of their own rational though processes…
Dear old Dozy is a perfect example of a perfect citizen for the new normal, doing as he’s told without question.

Juddian:

Franglais:

Night-and-day:
Masks and jabs have absolutely no correlation to the position we are in,

OH! Yes They Do!

Night-and-day:

Absolutely correct, as long as people keep complying they’ll be complying forever.
This will never end until people have the courage to say NO, for some that will never happen, the indoctrination has gone so far with them they may be incapable of their own rational though processes…
Dear old Dozy is a perfect example of a perfect citizen for the new normal, doing as he’s told without question.

OR,
People can see the facts for themselves.
They aren`t being indoctrinated, and are making a perfectly rational choice.
They choose to wear a mask, a tiny inconvenience for most, to help stop the spread of a nasty virus.

There are NO storm-troopers at street corners around here.
There are NO trusted politicians telling what to do front of happy cheering crowds.
There are plenty of alternative viewpoints around.

People have already been choosing to cut back a bit on socialising in spite of the Gov saying not to cancel anything. They are…we are… choosing to act as we think we should…NOT as the Politicos tell us to do.

We are better than the shambles sitting in Downing St,
and better than any feelings “it`s all a conspiracy in aid of…something…?”

Franglais:

Night-and-day:
Take a step back from the paranoia and see it for what it is, hyped up nonsense for reasons yet unknown.

So, you think the world has locked down, altered it`s ways of working, undergone huge changes… “for reasons yet unknown”?..
.
paranoia
/ˌparəˈnɔɪə/
noun
a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance, typically worked into an organized system. It may be an aspect of chronic personality disorder, of drug abuse, or of a serious condition such as schizophrenia in which the person loses touch with reality
.
Stop sitting on any brains you have left.

noun
noun: gullibility
a tendency to be easily persuaded that something is real or true; credulity.
“you can never underestimate the gullibility of people”

If you believe all this is for your own good then good on you. If you look at it from another perspective then start from the fact that our government doesn’t care a jot about any of us minions. The Chinese government certainly doesn’t care about their people, American, French ect ect. Now why on earth would they risk crashing the global economies to save mainly the old and sick from their populations, those being the ones that take most from the system and give the least back. You keep spouting the incorrect death figure of 145k but even that out of all confirmed cases is still a very very low mortality rate that doesn’t justify any of the measures taken. Even if lockdowns halved the death toll it still wasn’t worth it. And why the pending forced immunisation? Once they finally decided on what the vaccine can actually do, which is supposedly prevent hospitalisation they’ve admitted you can still carry, get covid and transmit it even after a jab so why the need for vaccine passports? If a person is unvaccinated it makes absolutely no difference to the vaccinated person stood next to them, it is to create a division in society and it has worked. While some of the population were sat at home like good citizens obeying their masters orders they were having parties at No 10 which shows how serious they all think it is. At least they’ve Chris Whitty back in his box now and told him to stop scaremongering

I really do think we should all follow the advice of our Prime Minister


It is after all his job to tell us the truth, and if we don’t follow his diktat, then each of us has to answer for our own behaviour.

Front line experienced NHS ICU covid nurse at wifes hairdressers today - 70% unvaxed with the rest with underlying conditions and none with previous covid over the past 2 years
That is real life on a major covid ICU ward

Oddly all 7 women in the hairdressers were unmasked including the head of a special school + a secondary school teacher + a nursery worker + a retired care home manager

They were all wondering what the omicron panic is about when it is only causing mild illness - excluding the unvaxed or those that have not already had covid

Got it.
A hairdressers is the intellectual social exchange of modern society.

If you need true guidance take a seat [emoji1787]

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I see there are coming up with more restrictions in Ireland,.Scotland and Wales, all concerning the hospitality industry, pubs shutting early,.and clubs closing completely, so you can sure as hell bet that England will follow suit.
All this ■■■■ madness has to stop, enough is enough, the hospitality sector is going to be totally ■■■■ ed, people will be going bankrupt and losing their businesses AND their homes.

This Covid crap is going to be with us for a long time, (at least Franglais will continue relishing in his new hobby pastime :smiley: ) so we need to deal with it both in the context of getting on with it alongside it and generally living with it.

Many people have had their jabs at face value, others chose not to for whatever reason, that is the state of play so deal with it.

Those who chose to isolate and/or ‘shelter’ from it do so,.and those who are willing to just get on with their lives and take their chances, with the hope of a bit of immunity build up…crack on.

Things can’t go on like this, we have 3 camps, those that think this is some kind of hoax.

The gullible listening and believing the scaremongering and paranoia.

Those in between, not getting pre.occupied with it all too much, but trying to just get on with their lives the best way they can and try and make their own minds up with no drama.
Each to his own, life has to go on.

I saw this somewhere in the Midlands, made me smile…

50 years ago everyone would have worn a mask and just obeyed the restrictions for everyones sake without whining - nowadays after decades of tory rule nobody has any other thought for anyone but themselves. “I want a pint so everyone else can go to hell…but I still expect hospital treatment when my moronic ideas put me in intensive care”.

Imagine them in the blitz - “Turn my lights off? Sit in the dark? Do you really think a bomber is going to see my lights? From 20,000 feet? Its all a hoax. Put your lights on like a christmas tree and dont be afraid. Ive bought floodlights for the garden and Im leaving them on all night. They dont scare me. .”

JeffA:
50 years ago everyone would have worn a mask and just obeyed the restrictions for everyones sake without whining - nowadays after decades of tory rule nobody has any other thought for anyone but themselves. “I want a pint so everyone else can go to hell…but I still expect hospital treatment when my moronic ideas put me in intensive care”.

Imagine them in the blitz - “Turn my lights off? Sit in the dark? Do you really think a bomber is going to see my lights? From 20,000 feet? Its all a hoax. Put your lights on like a christmas tree and dont be afraid. Ive bought floodlights for the garden and Im leaving them on all night. They dont scare me. .”

That is one way of looking at it, but society has changed a lot in those 50 years, in many ways, … good and bad.
People tend to question stuff more nowadays through different sources of news, but mainly through social media.
Many still accept the official line on everything, but those who are a bit less naive and switched on realise there is something not quite right in what we are being told, so they look for the true agenda, or at least a hidden one running alongside a true one.

In the seeking of the truth you get many varying theories from the outlandish to the possibly plausible, with different people having different opinions and views.
I personally believe the condition of Covid to be genuine, but I also believe the governing bodies of the world are also using it as a vehicle for some kind of social experiment to see just how far they can go, with people to see just how far they will bend over by giving up the freedoms that were once taken for granted, starting with wearing these ridiculous masks with little to no effect other than making you look a bit gullible, to interfering with your out of work free time that ithey know is held dear to working people and by Christ are they sucking the juice out of it.
I know that sounds a bit implausible, but just look around, do we have bodies on the streets, are hospitals at breaking point, is it done kind of armageddon scenario out there, or are MOST people who are getting it, and with no real health issues just suffering for a week and moving on, with the odd few getting adverse reactions to it.

Many of us have been on this forum for more than 10 years, if I had came on here then as some kind of Trucknet based ten bob Nostradamus, and said…
‘You know what, enjoy your freedoms of going out, going on holiday, spending festivities with your families , meeting friends that you all take for granted, cos in 10 years time there will be laws passed stopping us doing all of this’
You would have said I was off my ■■■■ head.

As for your blitz analogy…hmm a bit different, the threat (and the evidence thereof) was unarguable, nobody could deny the severity of the danger, where as now the actual severity is questionable deoending on what or how much you believe what you are being told.

Good points rob - I would quibble with the blitz being more severe tho - only 43,000 died in that - covids killed a lot more. David Icke would probably have said “43,000 out of how many? And you want me to sit in the dark like a bear in a cave? You sit in the dark if you like, Im throwing a disco in the garden! Everyone welcome. " you can dance, having the time of your life! Digging the dancing queen”.

Getting my booster this morning anyway so I will probably post later with a blood clot on the boil shortly before keeling over with a heart attack…

JeffA:
Good points rob - I would quibble with the blitz being more severe tho - only 43,000 died in that - covids killed a lot more. David Icke would probably have said “43,000 out of how many? And you want me to sit in the dark like a bear in a cave? You sit in the dark if you like, Im throwing a disco in the garden! Everyone welcome. " you can dance, having the time of your life! Digging the dancing queen”.

Getting my booster this morning anyway so I will probably post later with a blood clot on the boil shortly before keeling over with a heart attack…

Ridiculous to even compare this covid farce to the blitz. The number of people that have died of covid is unknown and never will be known, but it will be nowhere near 43k. The 145k wholly untrue despite that rambling of Franglais about it being an ONS figure. When they first quoted the death figure they said deaths FROM covid which was a complete lie, eventually they got called out on it so changed it to died within 28 days of testing positive with covid. That made even the most gullible of people actually think for themselves and think maybe this isn’t as bad as they make out. So it’s been changed again to died with covid as the primary cause. Still a very easy term to manipulate to suit. If somebody has lung cancer and they catch covid and die they go as a covid death, wrong it’s a lung cancer death. Without the combination of the two there probably wouldn’t of been a death but you’d never know.
The blitz was very much real and a real threat, it’s an insult to people who died in the war to compare this covid farce to it, and an insult to the soldiers to say NHS and supposed key workers are front line because there is no front line, it’s a little more than a cold for the majority of people ffs.

robroy:

JeffA:
50 years ago everyone would have worn a mask and just obeyed the restrictions for everyones sake without whining - nowadays after decades of tory rule nobody has any other thought for anyone but themselves. “I want a pint so everyone else can go to hell…but I still expect hospital treatment when my moronic ideas put me in intensive care”.

Imagine them in the blitz - “Turn my lights off? Sit in the dark? Do you really think a bomber is going to see my lights? From 20,000 feet? Its all a hoax. Put your lights on like a christmas tree and dont be afraid. Ive bought floodlights for the garden and Im leaving them on all night. They dont scare me. .”

That is one way of looking at it, but society has changed a lot in those 50 years, in many ways, … good and bad.
People tend to question stuff more nowadays through different sources of news, but mainly through social media.
Many still accept the official line on everything, but those who are a bit less naive and switched on realise there is something not quite right in what we are being told, so they look for the true agenda, or at least a hidden one running alongside a true one.

In the seeking of the truth you get many varying theories from the outlandish to the possibly plausible, with different people having different opinions and views.
I personally believe the condition of Covid to be genuine, but I also believe the governing bodies of the world are also using it as a vehicle for some kind of social experiment to see just how far they can go, with people to see just how far they will bend over by giving up the freedoms that were once taken for granted, starting with wearing these ridiculous masks with little to no effect other than making you look a bit gullible, to interfering with your out of work free time that ithey know is held dear to working people and by Christ are they sucking the juice out of it.
I know that sounds a bit implausible, but just look around, do we have bodies on the streets, are hospitals at breaking point, is it done kind of armageddon scenario out there, or are MOST people who are getting it, and with no real health issues just suffering for a week and moving on, with the odd few getting adverse reactions to it.

Many of us have been on this forum for more than 10 years, if I had came on here then as some kind of Trucknet based ten bob Nostradamus, and said…
‘You know what, enjoy your freedoms of going out, going on holiday, spending festivities with your families , meeting friends that you all take for granted, cos in 10 years time there will be laws passed stopping us doing all of this’
You would have said I was off my [zb] head.

As for your blitz analogy…hmm a bit different, the threat (and the evidence thereof) was unarguable, nobody could deny the severity of the danger, where as now the actual severity is questionable deoending on what or how much you believe what you are being told.

Ridiculous masks…social experiment etc etc.

I’m intrigued how you think the social control aspect is panning out in the UK Rob.

Talk me through it

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Monkey241:

robroy:

JeffA:
50 years ago everyone would have worn a mask and just obeyed the restrictions for everyones sake without whining - nowadays after decades of tory rule nobody has any other thought for anyone but themselves. “I want a pint so everyone else can go to hell…but I still expect hospital treatment when my moronic ideas put me in intensive care”.

Imagine them in the blitz - “Turn my lights off? Sit in the dark? Do you really think a bomber is going to see my lights? From 20,000 feet? Its all a hoax. Put your lights on like a christmas tree and dont be afraid. Ive bought floodlights for the garden and Im leaving them on all night. They dont scare me. .”

That is one way of looking at it, but society has changed a lot in those 50 years, in many ways, … good and bad.
People tend to question stuff more nowadays through different sources of news, but mainly through social media.
Many still accept the official line on everything, but those who are a bit less naive and switched on realise there is something not quite right in what we are being told, so they look for the true agenda, or at least a hidden one running alongside a true one.

In the seeking of the truth you get many varying theories from the outlandish to the possibly plausible, with different people having different opinions and views.
I personally believe the condition of Covid to be genuine, but I also believe the governing bodies of the world are also using it as a vehicle for some kind of social experiment to see just how far they can go, with people to see just how far they will bend over by giving up the freedoms that were once taken for granted, starting with wearing these ridiculous masks with little to no effect other than making you look a bit gullible, to interfering with your out of work free time that ithey know is held dear to working people and by Christ are they sucking the juice out of it.
I know that sounds a bit implausible, but just look around, do we have bodies on the streets, are hospitals at breaking point, is it done kind of armageddon scenario out there, or are MOST people who are getting it, and with no real health issues just suffering for a week and moving on, with the odd few getting adverse reactions to it.

Many of us have been on this forum for more than 10 years, if I had came on here then as some kind of Trucknet based ten bob Nostradamus, and said…
‘You know what, enjoy your freedoms of going out, going on holiday, spending festivities with your families , meeting friends that you all take for granted, cos in 10 years time there will be laws passed stopping us doing all of this’
You would have said I was off my [zb] head.

As for your blitz analogy…hmm a bit different, the threat (and the evidence thereof) was unarguable, nobody could deny the severity of the danger, where as now the actual severity is questionable deoending on what or how much you believe what you are being told.

Ridiculous masks…social experiment etc etc.

I’m intrigued how you think the social control aspect is panning out in the UK Rob.

Talk me through it

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Mostly Im with you on this Mr Monkey, but am still trying to see exactly where RR is coming from? His brain and his heart/feelings are in conflict arent they?
He knows that the Covid thing is real, but doesnt seem to be able to accept that? His heart is still refusing to accept that all the evidence is pointing one way, and is still looking for ■■? not to *believe* in what is really happening? . We all spent all our lives in a world (here in the west anyway) where death from disease wasnt an everyday reality.
Not it has become one. The figures are (or should be) unbelievable.
Except of course they are real, and hard as it is, they should be believed…I really wish it was otherwise, as do we all, Im sure. . It is something that most of us didnt mentally prepare for. It is a shock for all of us.
The first lockdowns seemed really weird.
I was still in a half dream for ages, then driving around Paris at 09hr00 on a Monday morning (think Hanger Lane, Western Av) on the limiter…
.
Look RobRoy, if it really is a conspiracy to control us all? Who is winning it? Who gains?
The whole world economy has suffered, Left/Right/Black/White/Up/Down are all saying the same thing.
Accepting this is a BIG problem is hard, yes.
Thinking it is such a huge conspiracy is surely even harder!

Franglais:

Monkey241:

robroy:

JeffA:
50 years ago everyone would have worn a mask and just obeyed the restrictions for everyones sake without whining - nowadays after decades of tory rule nobody has any other thought for anyone but themselves. “I want a pint so everyone else can go to hell…but I still expect hospital treatment when my moronic ideas put me in intensive care”.

Imagine them in the blitz - “Turn my lights off? Sit in the dark? Do you really think a bomber is going to see my lights? From 20,000 feet? Its all a hoax. Put your lights on like a christmas tree and dont be afraid. Ive bought floodlights for the garden and Im leaving them on all night. They dont scare me. .”

That is one way of looking at it, but society has changed a lot in those 50 years, in many ways, … good and bad.
People tend to question stuff more nowadays through different sources of news, but mainly through social media.
Many still accept the official line on everything, but those who are a bit less naive and switched on realise there is something not quite right in what we are being told, so they look for the true agenda, or at least a hidden one running alongside a true one.

In the seeking of the truth you get many varying theories from the outlandish to the possibly plausible, with different people having different opinions and views.
I personally believe the condition of Covid to be genuine, but I also believe the governing bodies of the world are also using it as a vehicle for some kind of social experiment to see just how far they can go, with people to see just how far they will bend over by giving up the freedoms that were once taken for granted, starting with wearing these ridiculous masks with little to no effect other than making you look a bit gullible, to interfering with your out of work free time that ithey know is held dear to working people and by Christ are they sucking the juice out of it.
I know that sounds a bit implausible, but just look around, do we have bodies on the streets, are hospitals at breaking point, is it done kind of armageddon scenario out there, or are MOST people who are getting it, and with no real health issues just suffering for a week and moving on, with the odd few getting adverse reactions to it.

Many of us have been on this forum for more than 10 years, if I had came on here then as some kind of Trucknet based ten bob Nostradamus, and said…
‘You know what, enjoy your freedoms of going out, going on holiday, spending festivities with your families , meeting friends that you all take for granted, cos in 10 years time there will be laws passed stopping us doing all of this’
You would have said I was off my [zb] head.

As for your blitz analogy…hmm a bit different, the threat (and the evidence thereof) was unarguable, nobody could deny the severity of the danger, where as now the actual severity is questionable deoending on what or how much you believe what you are being told.

Ridiculous masks…social experiment etc etc.

I’m intrigued how you think the social control aspect is panning out in the UK Rob.

Talk me through it

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Mostly Im with you on this Mr Monkey, but am still trying to see exactly where RR is coming from? His brain and his heart/feelings are in conflict arent they?
He knows that the Covid thing is real, but doesnt seem to be able to accept that? His heart is still refusing to accept that all the evidence is pointing one way, and is still looking for ■■? not to *believe* in what is really happening? . We all spent all our lives in a world (here in the west anyway) where death from disease wasnt an everyday reality.
Not it has become one. The figures are (or should be) unbelievable.
Except of course they are real, and hard as it is, they should be believed…I really wish it was otherwise, as do we all, Im sure. . It is something that most of us didnt mentally prepare for. It is a shock for all of us.
The first lockdowns seemed really weird.
I was still in a half dream for ages, then driving around Paris at 09hr00 on a Monday morning (think Hanger Lane, Western Av) on the limiter…
.
Look RobRoy, if it really is a conspiracy to control us all? Who is winning it? Who gains?
The whole world economy has suffered, Left/Right/Black/White/Up/Down are all saying the same thing.
Accepting this is a BIG problem is hard, yes.
Thinking it is such a huge conspiracy is surely even harder!

I do not know the answers to your questions…as I said it is MY theory from what I see with my own eyes., much of which conflicts with what I am told by experts and the likes of yourself.
I struggle to see a motive for it.
I just think they are using this as a means to carry it out,…whether it was planned or just an opportunity that came up…who knows.
I am not saying it is a hoax by any means,.I accept people are getting ill same as other outbreaks of different flu like epidemics in the past, but the figures and the stats are being massaged and manipulated to maintain the scaremongering.

Unlike yourself and a couple of others I do not readily and automatically believe everything I am told :unamused: …''It must be right because (fill in the blank who is some kind of authority) said so on an internet link.
If a thousand people say there is a storm for one reason or another and you see a shower, what conclusion do you come to?
Do you go with the storm theory just because Michael Fish has confirmed it?
You know what Franglsis?.., judging by the way you appear to be,.I reckon you would, but not before spending way too much of your time reading up on it. :unamused:
I’m stopping short of saying ‘Get a life’ but the possibility is eternally being kept open for me to do so. :smiley: