Consider this…
You have both bus and heavy goods licences with Drivers CPC acquired rights.
You did not do the Drivers CPC (bus) before the September 2013 acquired rights deadline.
However… you are automatically covered for both licences if you do the Drivers CPC (heavy goods?) before the September 2014 deadline.
My question is, can you opt to do the bus Drivers CPC if the acquired rights you have left are for heavy goods?
I can clarify if that is not clear.
global.
there is no difference in the cpc between bus or truck, except for the start date and some modules will be focused for bus regulations.
just if you have bus entitlement on you licence, then as soon as you have completed your 35 hrs before the September deadline for trucks you will automatically get your card as the deadline for buses has already passed. and that will cover you for both.
you should then get 5 years from the issue date to complete your next 35 hrs. hope this makes sense 
you can do what ever course you like
My question is, can you opt to do the bus Drivers CPC if the acquired rights you have left are for heavy goods?
Thanks.
global.
global:
My question is, can you opt to do the bus Drivers CPC if the acquired rights you have left are for heavy goods?
Thanks.
global.
No opt out
If you have both PCV & LGV categories on your licence then any dcpc periodic hours will count for both
Why would you want to anyway?
global:
My question is, can you opt to do the bus Drivers CPC if the acquired rights you have left are for heavy goods?
Thanks.
global.
global you can do any cpc course, it could be in load security for curtain siders, or even a first aid course and do the module 5 times, and you will get your card covering both. if a cpc provider wants to supply a course specifically for buses that’s up to them, all you require is the 35 hrs training
global:
My question is, can you opt to do the bus Drivers CPC if the acquired rights you have left are for heavy goods?
Thanks.
global.
You said you have acquired rights for both HGV and PSC vehicles so you can no longer do the Initial DCPC training test for either, all you have to do is 35 hours JAUPT approved training and it will cover both HGV vehicles and PSC vehicles.
Once you’ve done the 35 hours DCPC training you will be covered for both types of vehicle regardless of what the training was targeted towards.
As far as periodic training is concerned, as long as you have the appropriate licence any DCPC training will count for both types of vehicle.
ROG:
Why would you want to anyway?
Hi ROG, because the total cost for five modules = £175.
global.
global:
ROG:
Why would you want to anyway?Hi ROG, because the total cost for five modules = £175.
global.
I do not follow what you are getting at … why would you not want the PCV along with the LGV?
I don’t get what the question is??
Are you asking if you can attend a PSV training course because it’s cheaper?
There is no way that you can do the bus drivers DCPC,because such a thing does not exist.If you hold a vocational C and D licence all you require is 35 hours of approved DCPC training and that will cover you for both categories of vehicle.This goes to show how good and pertinent the qualification is.
But remember that most courses are approved for EITHER LGV OR PCV licence holders. So while the qualification is the same, the training is different.
Mind you I know at least on PCV driver, who, when the penny finally dropped last September, got his qualification by virtue of his (never used ) C1 entitlement for 7.5-tonne trucks by sitting through the same load security course five times!
alamcculloch:
There is no way that you can do the bus drivers DCPC,because such a thing does not exist.If you hold a vocational C and D licence all you require is 35 hours of approved DCPC training and that will cover you for both categories of vehicle.This goes to show how good and pertinent the qualification is.
Some modules are approved for D1, D1+E, D, D+E Category holders only.
Some modules are approved for C1, C1+E, C, C+E Category holders only.
Some have ‘dual’ approval - it depends on content & who filled in the application form for the course approval.
Obviously the modules with dual approval can be undertaken by anyone with relevant Category (gained prior to 2008/9).
Those modules without dual approval can be undertaken by those with the appropriate Category, and as GasGas says, most PCV drivers will have at least C1 entitlement, so are able to ‘sit’ an LGV specific module - provided they passed their car test before 1997. Upon reaching 35 hours the DQC will re-instate their PCV entitlement with a matching expiry date of Sept. 2019.
Not sure how it works with 101 restricted D1/D1+E entitlements though, they were originally ineligible to do PCV modules - but I think they maybe allowed to attend PCV modules now■■?
Those with D1 and 101 code are now under PCV acquired rights and will not now be allowed to do PCV initial dcpc
So, what is the definitive answer then!
global.
global:
So, what is the definitive answer then!
global.
I think the simple way to put it is that every module will give you 7 hours towards entitlement for both LGV and PCV, the only restriction is whether you qualify to do that module, and in your case holding C and D you will do.
So in my opinion there is nothing to stop you doing the course you found. Better wait for ROG or someone a bit more experienced to confirm this though!
So a bus driver can do a HIAB course for what reason?
So when he drives a double decker under a low bridge he can pick his roof back up again??
Remember that the bus driver doing HI-AB training for DCPC purposes cant log time spent on exams.I went for DCPC training organised by the bus firm,the trainer knew nothing about passenger transport though that small detail did not stop him.He spoke about load restraint and suzies and speed limits for lorries .I let him know that buses have different speed limits.
Own Account Driver:
So a bus driver can do a HIAB course for what reason?So when he drives a double decker under a low bridge he can pick his roof back up again??
The reason is to get the dcpc hours and add another string to ones bow
A LGV driver could do 5 x 7 hours on customer service so that would not help with low bridges either!
We have to remember that dcpc is not tailored to the individual needs of what a driver does but simply requires the driver get in 35 hours of whatever training over 5 years = its stupid but that’s what the EU has given us
Own Account Driver:
So a bus driver can do a HIAB course for what reason?So when he drives a double decker under a low bridge he can pick his roof back up again??
Things do change…that bus driver could feasibly be driving a 7.5 tonne with HI-AB in the not too distant future - therefore the training could be relevant!!! Unlikely - but not impossible!!!
Although courses are approved for either licence category or both I have it on good word from JAUPT that although they would rather a driver attended an appropriate course - legally they can’t stop them attending any course no matter what licence category it was approved for as long as it is approved
Crazy rules!