blue estate:
Just ask the Deroy low loder driver who was sleeping in his truck cab when it was on the back of his mates truck and they got stopped on the M27
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tachograph:
manski:
tachograph:
Iām not sure wether or not thereās a misunderstanding here.You can travel to or from your usual place of work outside of working time,
Itās in the document I linked to in the other post.
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I am sorry but I still cannot see where it says that in the document. You could draw that conclusion but thatās not the same. It does specifically say that you cannot take your rest in a moving vehicle though. (I actually hope you can prove me wrong to be honest
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Could you clarify exactly what youāre asking/querying please, I think weāre probably talking at cross purposes.
What Iām saying is what we all know and that is that if you get up in the morning then travel to your usual place of work you can do it in your own time, I think the rest of the post regarding travelling to take charge of a vehicle thatās not at the home or usual place of work is self explanatory.
Yep, we all do that but those regulations say you have to have x hours of rest, defines it by saying it has to be a time when you are free to do what you want etc. but then adds another rule that says you cannot take your rest in a moving vehicle. It just says a moving vehicle, it does not say the one you have just been driving, a company car or whatever, it just says not in a moving vehicle. So it could be said that when you are driving, or being driven even, home in a car you are not resting. That would mean Dozy would have to carry a logbook with him at all times to record his time in vehicles 
Like I said in the beginning, a bit pedantic perhaps but then, you never know 
manski:
Yep, we all do that but those regulations say you have to have x hours of rest, defines it by saying it has to be a time when you are free to do what you want etc. but then adds another rule that says you cannot take your rest in a moving vehicle. It just says a moving vehicle, it does not say the one you have just been driving, a company car or whatever, it just says not in a moving vehicle. So it could be said that when you are driving, or being driven even, home in a car you are not resting. That would mean Dozy would have to carry a logbook with him at all times to record his time in vehicles
But thatās what I said in this post viewtopic.php?f=2&t=156822#p2517194
And again here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=156822#p2517308
The part that youāve quoted was my reply to Franglais, though on reflection I may have misunderstood what he meant butā¦
Like I said I think weāre talking at cross purposes 
tachograph:
manski:
Yep, we all do that but those regulations say you have to have x hours of rest, defines it by saying it has to be a time when you are free to do what you want etc. but then adds another rule that says you cannot take your rest in a moving vehicle. It just says a moving vehicle, it does not say the one you have just been driving, a company car or whatever, it just says not in a moving vehicle. So it could be said that when you are driving, or being driven even, home in a car you are not resting. That would mean Dozy would have to carry a logbook with him at all times to record his time in vehiclesBut thatās what I said in this post viewtopic.php?f=2&t=156822#p2517194
And again here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=156822#p2517308The part that youāve quoted was my reply to Franglais, though on reflection I may have misunderstood what he meant butā¦
Like I said I think weāre talking at cross purposes
I am not sure cross purposes is the right description
What I am saying is the regulations you have quoted from actually donāt specifically say that travelling from your normal depot / start/ finish point is excluded from the rule that you cannot count time spent in a moving vehicle as rest, any vehicle, it does not specify, it just says moving vehicle. What I am saying I suppose is that the regs are badly written, but then we all knew that anywayā¦
tachograph:
manski:
tachograph:
Thatās correct, travelling to or from your usual place of work can be done whilst on rest
Section 1.7 Travelling TimeThis might be pedantic, but just testing you
Iām not sure wether or not thereās a misunderstanding here.
You can travel to or from your usual place of work outside of working time, however traveling to or from a place thatās neither your home or your usual place of work to take charge of a vehicle should be recorded as other work or POA, the traveling time cannot be used as rest.
For instance if youāre traveling to a place thatās not your usual place of work I.e. another depot, to take charge of a vehicle the traveling time cannot legally be counted as rest.
Itās in the document I linked to in the other post.
If you park up some miles from home and start your daily rest period youāre free to do whatever you want, if you want to travel home and back by bus/taxi or whatever in your daily rest period itās no-oneās business but yours, consequently if you make your own way home you need to start the next shift from the same location that the last shift ended.
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So just one more time:
I think it happens quite a few times in a year that, especially drivers from big companies with several depots, are ask to help in the next depot if thatās close by. [emoji849][emoji848]
DVSA wonāt find out until something goes wrong like an accident etc. i.e with injured parties, major damage or death. I donāt think they follow it up on a little bumper accident.
