robinhood_1984:
As you already hold a UK class 1 just tell the dvla you’ve lost it and get a replacement sent, that way you’re not surrendering anything and if you wish to go back to Canada at any time you have not got to prat about getting a replacement Canadian licence again. The province who issued your licence in Canada keep them on file in the provincial captial and do not send them back to the UK so the DVLA have no idea what licence you hold and dont.
Beware this is not the case, I had My UK licence under threat untill I returned My out of date Canadian one, I had been back in The UK 3 years & had done as suggested above, it came to light when I moved house & sent My class one to Swansea for change of address & got a letter back saying send us your Manitoba one or your not having one from us & I was told its an offence to hold a CDL/HGV call it what You will in two countries.
I’ve followed my own advice above and have had no problems whatsoever. Perhaps Manitoba sends licences back to the DVLA in Swansea, I know New Brunswick certainly do not as all you have to do is give any Service New Brunswick office 5 days notice and they will have your original licence you handed in returned to you from the head office in the provincial capital where they are kept.
robinhood_1984:
As you already hold a UK class 1 just tell the dvla you’ve lost it and get a replacement sent, that way you’re not surrendering anything and if you wish to go back to Canada at any time you have not got to prat about getting a replacement Canadian licence again. The province who issued your licence in Canada keep them on file in the provincial captial and do not send them back to the UK so the DVLA have no idea what licence you hold and dont.
Beware this is not the case, I had My UK licence under threat untill I returned My out of date Canadian one, I had been back in The UK 3 years & had done as suggested above, it came to light when I moved house & sent My class one to Swansea for change of address & got a letter back saying send us your Manitoba one or your not having one from us & I was told its an offence to hold a CDL/HGV call it what You will in two countries.
Be fair John I’ve heard the sane thing through some very sensible sources.
No layover pay in western Canada?!?! I thought you chaps over there got better everything than those of us who’ve entered the peasants life in New Brunswick.
Not totally untrue we get it buy only got company delays if you reset on be. Toad that’s your choice
Follow whoevers advice you decide kr79, I speak only about what I know & am clear on & the guys post seemed generally about Canada on the whole, maybe ON NB or wherever do this but believe Me Manitoba will eventually ask Swansea for your Canadian license back or at least did with me.
I was also told by Harvest that My cdl was only renewed as I came back before April 2012 which tells Me its a 5 year period from passing Your test to losing it if your absent & dont renew. Anyway whoever reads this can decide for themselves I care not a jot.
fly sheet:
I was also told by Harvest that My cdl was only renewed as I came back before April 2012 which tells Me its a 5 year period from passing Your test to losing it if your absent & dont renew. Anyway whoever reads this can decide for themselves I care not a jot.
So to add to the other issues on the Canadian driver shortage topic they won’t even recognise and keep on file a test pass over there for the purposes of keeping licence ‘entitlement’ concerning date expired licences assuming a driver has to allow it to lapse or return it in the case of returning home for a while for whatever reason.
fly sheet:
I was also told by Harvest that My cdl was only renewed as I came back before April 2012 which tells Me its a 5 year period from passing Your test to losing it if your absent & dont renew. Anyway whoever reads this can decide for themselves I care not a jot.
So to add to the other issues on the Canadian driver shortage topic they won’t even recognise and keep on file a test pass over there for the purposes of keeping licence ‘entitlement’ concerning date expired licences assuming a driver has to allow it to lapse or return it in the case of returning home for a while for whatever reason.
Canadian Semi licences are issued for a maximum of 5 years. Before the end of this period, the date is printed on the front of the licence, you must re-sit your theory test. Your licence is then valid for another 5 years. Failure to do this, even by one day, will result in you losing your entitlement. It is the same rule for everyone, regardless of your status in Canada. It doesn’t matter if what nationality your are, if your are a TFW, or a PR, a citizen, or a Canadian national. It is one rule for everyone, regardless!
With regards to the UK Class One licence. Your licence is valid until the date on the rear of the Plastic photo card. The expiry date on the front is for your photograph only.
Different Country, different rules.
fly sheet:
I was also told by Harvest that My cdl was only renewed as I came back before April 2012 which tells Me its a 5 year period from passing Your test to losing it if your absent & dont renew. Anyway whoever reads this can decide for themselves I care not a jot.
So to add to the other issues on the Canadian driver shortage topic they won’t even recognise and keep on file a test pass over there for the purposes of keeping licence ‘entitlement’ concerning date expired licences assuming a driver has to allow it to lapse or return it in the case of returning home for a while for whatever reason.
Canadian Semi licences are issued for a maximum of 5 years. Before the end of this period, the date is printed on the front of the licence, you must re-sit your theory test. Your licence is then valid for another 5 years. Failure to do this, even by one day, will result in you losing your entitlement. It is the same rule for everyone, regardless of your status in Canada. It doesn’t matter if what nationality your are, if your are a TFW, or a PR, a citizen, or a Canadian national. It is one rule for everyone, regardless!
With regards to the UK Class One licence. Your licence is valid until the date on the rear of the Plastic photo card. The expiry date on the front is for your photograph only.
Different Country, different rules.
I wasn’t just referring to British ex pat drivers.There’s no reason as to why they should need to wipe out someone’s complete entitlement just because their licence has lapsed for whatever reason and that includes the idea of needing to renew the theory test every 5 years.My LGV licence here expired almost 10 years ago on the requirement to take a medical and I haven’t bothered to renew it since.But.That doesn’t mean that my ‘entitlement’ to drive LGV’s gets wiped out just as it ( shouldn’t ),but obviously does,there.It seems obvious that if there’s a system whereby it’s only the theory test that needs to be renewed every 5 years,but not the driving test,then the driving test part of that requirement should remain on file as part of the driver’s entitlement until the theory test has been carried out.There’s no reason why they should wipe out someones total licence entitlement.
With regards to a UK LGV licence it doesn’t matter wether it’s renewed or not the actual entitlement and test pass is kept on record and the licence can be renewed at any time after expiry.But as for the idea of a different country as I’ve said on the Canadian driver shortage topic I think maybe we’ve allowed the place to become too much of a different country.To the point where I think that a British LGV licence ( and obviously British LGV ‘entitlement’ ) should be interchangeable with a Canadian licence and if that means that Canada would need to look again at it’s obviously bonkers system of driver licencing then that could only help the situation in making the job more attractive over there.
Angela:
Canadian Semi licences are issued for a maximum of 5 years. Before the end of this period, the date is printed on the front of the licence, you must re-sit your theory test. Your licence is then valid for another 5 years. Failure to do this, even by one day, will result in you losing your entitlement. It is the same rule for everyone, regardless of your status in Canada. It doesn’t matter if what nationality your are, if your are a TFW, or a PR, a citizen, or a Canadian national. It is one rule for everyone, regardless!
With regards to the UK Class One licence. Your licence is valid until the date on the rear of the Plastic photo card. The expiry date on the front is for your photograph only.
Different Country, different rules.
Thats Ontario. Most certainly not the case in New Brunswick. One good thing about living in a backwater is that we dont have millions of people to employ and as such dont create government jobs to sell one back ones own credentials in form of resitting basic tests that serve no purpose at all other than to patronise. In NB our licences last for 5 years and I believe that if they expire, we have a further 2 years in which to go down to Service NB and get a new one, but there is absolutely no re-test of any kind, if left longer than 2 years then it does expire. Quite why is beyond me, if you’ve passed then you’ve passed regardless of a silly plastic card having expired or not. Sadly Mr Carryfast, Canada is slowly catching up to the UK in many fields, one is the introduction of much silly bureaucracy such as this. Its jobs for the boys down the government office who would otherwise be ripe for the chop due to cut backs.
Angela:
Canadian Semi licences are issued for a maximum of 5 years. Before the end of this period, the date is printed on the front of the licence, you must re-sit your theory test. Your licence is then valid for another 5 years. Failure to do this, even by one day, will result in you losing your entitlement. It is the same rule for everyone, regardless of your status in Canada. It doesn’t matter if what nationality your are, if your are a TFW, or a PR, a citizen, or a Canadian national. It is one rule for everyone, regardless!
With regards to the UK Class One licence. Your licence is valid until the date on the rear of the Plastic photo card. The expiry date on the front is for your photograph only.
Different Country, different rules.
Thats Ontario. Most certainly not the case in New Brunswick. In NB our licences last for 5 years and I believe that if they expire, we have a further 2 years in which to go down to Service NB and get a new one, but there is absolutely no re-test of any kind, if left longer than 2 years then it does expire. Quite why is beyond me, if you’ve passed then you’ve passed regardless of a silly plastic card having expired or not. Sadly Mr Carryfast, Canada is slowly catching up to the UK in many fields, one is the introduction of much silly bureaucracy such as this. Its jobs for the boys down the government office who would otherwise be ripe for the chop due to cut backs.
Give the Brits credit where it’s due in this case at least passing the test means just that and the ‘entitlement’ which that provides stays with the driver regardless of what the date on the piece of paper or card says.
While Brits having to retake another driving test just because they’ve moved to one of our old ‘colonies’ is yet more bs considering that it’s possible to drive a truck in Canada or USA on temporary entry using a British LGV just so long as it’s not hauling freight for hire or reward although even that’s possible so long as it’s DOT compliant.
I know in nz it’s a straight swap for a UK license but I’d imagine the argument would be they drive on the other side of the road and still use crash boxes.
Funny enough I was reading something about this on Facebook a lot of Canadian drivers think its right European drivers re take the test as they won’t have seen or coped with road conditions like the ones in North America.
If they only knew the UK driving test is much more harder than the Canadian one.
As for road conditions from what I’ve seen in my time here that even most of the mountain passes are 4 lane roads not done twisty single lane road like out of the Italian job.
kr79:
I know in nz it’s a straight swap for a UK license but I’d imagine the argument would be they drive on the other side of the road and still use crash boxes.
Funny enough I was reading something about this on Facebook a lot of Canadian drivers think its right European drivers re take the test as they won’t have seen or coped with road conditions like the ones in North America.
If they only knew the UK driving test is much more harder than the Canadian one.
As for road conditions from what I’ve seen in my time here that even most of the mountain passes are 4 lane roads not done twisty single lane road like out of the Italian job.
The more I see of the Canadian and American attitudes to the Brits the more I think they’ve lost the plot.As for NZ or OZ as far as I know it’s no different in the case that British HGV/LGV entitlement isn’t recognised for interchangeability with their licences and getting a job there is not really any easier than Canada or even possibly no chance at all as in the case of Canada not so long ago and USA to date.
It’s obvious that they all see the easy importation of British drivers as a threat for some reason considering as I said that it’s no problem to drive even a right hand drive British truck on a British LGV licence throughout North America on temporary entry or hire and reward with a DOT compliant one for UK-North American freight.Although they still seem to have a lot to learn about the meaning of cabotage compared to legal international road freight journeys.In which case watch this space in the case of the Mexicans doing USA-Canada at some point in the future using Mexican wagons driven on Mexican licences.
Nz is a swap my mate went out there this year. Got in on a year work permit I believe it’s a similar set up up Canada where he can apply for residency after so long.
I was reading something in one if the free papers in the truckstops about Mexican hauliers been able to apply for international permits to run in to the states to deliver rather that just the border areas.
In guessing it would be the same set up as what we have where we cans of internal loads in the states only back to Canada
