Colleague begging for money every month

yorkshire terrier:
If this is genuine just say ”look mate I can’t afford it anymore” end of problem.
Years ago we had a driver like this but not wanting hundreds just a tenner here and twenty there,no driver ever got it back until one day I threatened him we had a fist fight in yard and he left the company,on asking the other lads who he borrowed off it added up to well over 2 grand.
I will lend family and close friends that’s it simple.

I’m the black sheep of the family, financially - but I never ask to borrow from them. A matter of pride.
They, of course, have no want for cash, so I get left alone too, although I did lend a personal friend enough to cover his mortgage on one occasion, I think it was when interest rates went to 15% and he was a couple of hundred short in meeting his next month’s ramped-up 4-figure mortgage payment, having had no overtime that month.

I only loaned money to a workmate on one occasion, which was when I still had a credit card with a big limit which a workmate I wasn’t particularily close to wanted to borrow two grand to buy a used car with for his Dad’s dealership. It was a cashflow bridging loan, and I knew his family were good for the cash, in case there was any issues over “Sorry mate, I’m a bit short this week” at a later stage.

This was effectively a “payday loan” well before the days that such things became official and “legit” business, if Usary can ever be considered “Legit”…
My basis for granting this particular guy the short term loan until the end of the week, was that he made it lucrative for me to lend him the money, and I knew his family would and could cover it, if he tried playing any games with me, like running away, and not repaying “cos I had no contract, nothing in writing”. Contracts are worthless - if the original proposer of the contract, has no intention of honouring it. It was done “on the nod”.
Had my best friend at the time asked for even half the amount, I would have turned him down, since I knew that he had no “money on the way” with which to pay the loan back.
If I were a banker - I would only be offering Bridging Loans, and nothing more. Not “payday loans” like in this example, as the vast majority of people are not borrowing from payday lenders to turn a quick profit by the end of the week, but rather are spending it on essential goods, meaning that the money is as gone as if gambled away. It was a calculated risk I took, and he duly paid me back £2200 at the end of that same week cash, which more than covered the £50 cash handling charge the credit card issuer charged me for drawing it out over a bank counter. (Too much for an ATM)
As I once had a job briefly at a merchant bank (Kleinwort Benson pre 1987 crash) - I got to take a look at things like “Loan Books”, and the myriad of ways that credit ratings are calculated - all on Commercial loans, rather than to individuals. Companies wanting to expand might choose to float bonds in their name rather than borrow a fixed cash sum directly from the bank for instance… Bond issues could obtain a cheaper loan rate on a larger amount than borrowing cash BUT the commissions and other set-up fees and requiements - took time to move around across banking desks as it were. Most of the work I ended up doing, was maintaining the VDU systems about the Japanese desk. One back office manager Watanabe seemed fairly impressed by the speed that I got things done for him on request, but the other trading manager Cohen - got me the boot for talking back to him, when he breezed in one sunday whilst I was working on some comms wiring moaning about what a hard life he had being made to work Sundays “for free” because he was on a monday-friday salary. I muttered something derisory to him about “Consider the little people like me who earn in a month what you’re getting paid every week before you moan about having to do a bit of unpaid overtime…” My own direct company boss was duly approached by Cohen to “get rid of this back-chatting upstart or else”… and I offered to resign with immediate effect IF my employer gave me a reference. This turned out to be worth asking for in the end, as it might have prevented me from getting a job at other firms later on, had I done my time in the city “no references”… Now despite this bit of short-shrift treatment, I’ll state at this point that I have never had any bother from the Jewish community, and indeed have been financially mentored by another old hand, that I have to this day nothing but praise for. He was the one who educated me in the art of strategic defaulting, and “how to dump a loss in someone else’s pocket” - the very acme of the Jewish-run banking system. If you can’t beat 'em - join em! Donald Trump - has clearly taken similar advice over the years, and of course - he too - has nothing but praise for the Jewish community, by far the best “Strategists” out there.

As will be evident from my posts above, I am more Antonio to Conor’s Shylock…

The-Snowman:

Conor:

Winseer:
I not only speak from experience, but more than one experience… There’s no court on earth that can enforce a debt upon someone who’s skint for six years after the original run-up of the debt. UNSECURED debts ONLY mind.

Yes they can oh clueless one. They can petition you for bankruptcy. At that point the Official Receiver will come up with an amount per month you need to live on and will seize your wages you earn above that amount. Also any lump sum you get such as from a PPI payout that was for a claim for something before the date of your bankruptcy will go directly to the OR too with many PPI claims being paid by the company directly to the OR, just sending you a letter advising you of the amount and the fact they were paying it direct to the OR as you’d been subsequently declared bankrupt.

But thanks for letting us all know you’re an untrustworthy [zb] whose word is worth nothing and who doesn’t pay what they owe. Scum is too polite a word for people like you.

I think he actually meant they cant come to you six years after you defaulted and start demanding their money back. If he does mean that then he’s right. After six years the debt gets written off

Brave move Frozen chap. The chipboard champion knows everything, with those incredible wages he barely ever mentions, his data allowance must be unlimited.

I reckon he surfs the net more than CF, so be prepared for a lengthy (and incredibly boring) comeback :wink:

It is a shame you can’t all read the stuff in full, rather than merely giggle at the personal attacks, having clearly not read anything other than the retorts of others who clearly don’t have a clue as to what happens in the real world. Conor isn’t a lawyer, and yet speaks like he knows how all this fancy legislation works in actuality, whereas I speak of the more pragmatic way it ends up working at ground level.

If you don’t ask the right questions - you’ll never get the right answers, let alone the answers one might actually crave.

I disagree strongly with Conor’s notion that people in debt should just top themselves, rather than welch that debt.
I guess I’m further to the Left than him in that regard then, as it appals me that wealthy Labour supporters - don’t do anything to dig their own supporters out of the gutter when they are in financial difficulty - but will do plenty to PUT someone IN that financial difficulty in the first place, as I’ve found out the hard way… How spiteful and backbiting of Liberal Left people to go out of their way to get people like me sacked over and over again - merely because my views grate so… I’m sick to death of the “Loadsamoney” “Wot’s an Overdraft?” generation. :angry: :imp:
I deal with it by getting angry rather than depressed. :neutral_face:

Winseer:
if Usary can ever be considered “Legit”…
My basis for granting this particular guy the short term loan until the end of the week, was that he made it lucrative for me to lend him the money

It’s hilarious how you literally contradict yourself in 2 consecutive sentences. Why should someone lending his own money, therefor giving up (albeit temporary) ownership over that money AND risking losing it, not be allowed to negotiate a compensation against that temporary loss of ownership and potential complete/partial loss of the money? This is why I hate it when people (friends, relatives) ask me for a quick one - after I lend to someone now I have less money, if I urgently need some I now have to go beg myself, they never pay back on time and all for a ‘‘thanks’’ until next time.

ETS:

Winseer:
if Usary can ever be considered “Legit”…
My basis for granting this particular guy the short term loan until the end of the week, was that he made it lucrative for me to lend him the money

It’s hilarious how you literally contradict yourself in 2 consecutive sentences. Why should someone lending his own money, therefor giving up (albeit temporary) ownership over that money AND risking losing it, not be allowed to negotiate a compensation against that temporary loss of ownership and potential complete/partial loss of the money? This is why I hate it when people (friends, relatives) ask me for a quick one - after I lend to someone now I have less money, if I urgently need some I now have to go beg myself, they never pay back on time and all for a ‘‘thanks’’ until next time.

I’m better at risk management than others are at manging the risk of me, where I just get routinely let go the moment people realize they can’t control me when it comes to earning the money, but never get let go at all when it comes to the inability of a sacked worker to pay their dues in the future to come.

…Clearly the thought of “Minding their own business, and ignoring me at all times” - never occured to them.
No one should give a toss how much I’m earning, how long I’m taking, what route I use.
I object very much being made poor by the shanigans of these people who also then expect me to “pay my debts” when put upon such hard times, entirely without deserving it.
Did I ever steal wages from anyone? Did I ever thump anyone, nick or damage their stuff?
No.

It is just “resentment by others” that puts me on the back foot financially, a dangerous thing if a wider public are going through the same grinder as me at this time.

People wonder where the Germany 1933 election result came from…
Utimately the Public had seen enough bull in their daily lives, and were prepared to risk (as it turns out) an enormous change to society than stay as they were, the wealthy elites doing fine and dandy, where others fight to merely keep the lights on, and put food on their tables.

We all know what happens when one combines Far Left Government scrutiny with Far Right Military Enforcement…

China and Iran - are already allies. The rest of the world does nothing about it, but embraces their brand of “make/keep working people poor to retain control over them” How much worse down the wrong path can it get?

Winseer:
It is a shame you can’t all read the stuff in full,

:open_mouth:
Not in the case of YOUR posts it ain’t. :laughing: :laughing:

Jesus Christ’s! I think I’m an over thinker and friends often take the ■■■■ out of my many and various obsessions but I’ve got nothing on Win-I’ll just write another essay-seer. :smiley:

switchlogic:
Jesus Christ’s! I think I’m an over thinker and friends often take the ■■■■ out of my many and various obsessions but I’ve got nothing on Win-I’ll just write another essay-seer. :smiley:

It’s far easier to block his posts so you don’t see them

Like an infinite number of monkeys, one day Winseer must type out a totally coherent post.
Until then we’re stuck with Dan Brown novels…

Franglais:
Like an infinite number of monkeys, one day Winseer must type out a totally coherent post.
Until then we’re stuck with Dan Brown novels…

Ok that made laugh so loud I alarmed the dog :smiley: