Wonder how many firms have got clueless, useless people running the traffic office where no one has ever driven a truck, how did these mongs ever get these jobs.
That’s why you call them clowns because they should make you laugh but they really are a little scary.
As an aside,I worked at a firm where one of the drivers went into the office and let me tell you that after a while you would have thought he had never been out on the road. Was his perceived power you see,he was fine with me as I had been doing the job longer but some of the other drivers…poor sods.
Probably the same amount that have clueless, useless people driving the trucks. I would say.
Coffeeholic:
Probably the same amount that have clueless, useless people driving the trucks. I would say.
■■■■ you beat me to it … 
being a driver does not mean they’ll be a good planner and a good planner does not have to had been a driver.
i read on here last week somewhere that a driver said he only had respect for planners that had been on the road, even if they were crap. wtf?
stevie
A firm that has no experience in the office isn’t worth a carrot. Time to get out of there and move on me thinks.
yorkshire78:
Wonder how many firms have got clueless, useless people running the traffic office where no one has ever driven a truck, how did these mongs ever get these jobs.
My mum ran the traffic office in Howden with a small fleet, owner drivers and regular sub contractors, she took a couple of driving lessons and realised she would never feel safe on her own. It didn’t detract from her skills in the traffic office and she worked there for over 20 years,and I believe she was well respected by her drivers, although she must have had a few clowns to deal with over the years.
In the same way that many employed drivers will never make it as an owner driver, an owner driver will never make a good employer or that a big fleet operator will never make it as a driver. There are clowns in all walks of life 
better to have the morons in the office than out on the road, just think of the poor children these so called professional drivers could endanger if put in charge of so many horses 
yorkshire78:
Wonder how many firms have got clueless, useless people running the traffic office where no one has ever driven a truck, how did these mongs ever get these jobs.
There are far more wasters on the road than in offices, remember in the office there’s no skiving and dodging, long hours as well and usually there is a need for some level of education, not always the case in some drivers in my experience up and down the M1 over the last few years!!
Haha, we’ve just got crap planners then.
Having experience as a driver, doesn’t make you a good planner, in many cases actualy the oposite.
There are some drivers who can make (with the right education) a good planner.
And there are very good planners who (even with the right education) never will make a decent driver.
The thing is being open minded, and be able to take information in and split the right information from the BS and other crab.
As I can read on the way you put your post, you would never make even a slightly decent planner
I have seen planners never even had a car license, who could plan you perfectly, so that the company and the driver made decent money and had a good days work.
It’s easy to complain that the planner made mistakes, but do you know what the information was he was given? what the next step is? and a million more factors come into play.
But to be honest, there are less planners than you think nowadays, you have a lot “communicators” who give the driver the information, and informs the customer about delays, demurrage and all other information he requires.
many times sits behind this man another man (or woman think equal rights, think about the children etc. Pot Noodle, cheap Tesco Bacon) who actualy put the lanes together, looks for the backloads, calculate prices, set routes up so that customers get their goods in time etc. the difference between Fleet and Freight planners.
But only one advice to the OP, if you can do it better, go for a job in the office, and you can stand in line with the other office blokes and lassies to be called a lazy [zb]
Hiya…it was the norm for older drivers to take office jobs years ago…they knew the customer the yards
and the unloaders, which did help, they also knew where the drop was so if a driver could’nt find a yard
there was somone in the office who could give directions, but this practice went years ago.
the last place i worked the drivers was back loading for themselves and pocketing the money.
the tsp manager asked how i could do a trip a day and a half quicker than another driver and
use less fuel.i said nothing and the huge fiddle carried on , if it had been a ex driver he would have
known how long the trip should take and how long to unload.
John
Quite shocked at the response, there must be some good firms left with decent office staff.
Don’t start me on office staff. My last place= One thick idiot that was scared of his own shadow.
One arse licker know all. And a boss that is a complete bell end. 
No problems with the office staff at our place. Good boss, one of the current drivers helps out in there now and again and he is also good. The other office who do the paperwork for the runs also all good.
Same here,it’s a family firm and they’ve all done the job and still do when the need arises but do you know the best thing…they treat you as a person,have the crack and are always on your side.
Freightliner is run by clowns although they did have a blinding planner called Colin craven, but unfortunately he dropped down dead after 2 months.
the place where i work is full of mongs like lol uselessss 
bigvern1:
Don’t start me on office staff. My last place= One thick idiot that was scared of his own shadow.
One arse licker know all. And a boss that is a complete bell end.
Don’t sit on the fence BV, tell us what it was really like.