Clever Trailer Brakes

So, my new trailer has a braking feature, were by if you go into a corner to fast, it will brake the trailer to prevent a potential roll over.
Any one know what the actual system is called, and how good is it?
I imagine it is very similar to an ESP brake system!

It is an ESP system. Of more use on a trailer than a tractor, and the trailer rolls first.

It may even brake individual wheels to restore stability

We had it on some trailers a few years ago.Go into a corner a bit to quick and the brakes came on but the brake lights never used to! They were tipper trailers and to be honest you could go around the corners alot faster but the brakes came on to early.Thought they were a bit dangerous really.

GasGas:
It is an ESP system. Of more use on a trailer than a tractor, and the trailer rolls first.

It may even brake individual wheels to restore stability

Thanks, found the official system and a video to show how good/bad it is.

youtube.com/watch?v=MmhozLIu2uw

Should be fitted to more trailers IMO.

It’s been around for a while. Lynx Express got new Krone trailers in 2003/4 that had that system on them.

So does that mean the morons who turn over by driving too fast will not be caught out and drive EVEN faster?

Had this system on an artic roll on/off i used to drive,it can be a bit too sensitive at times,especially on roundabouts,often cutting in as early as just 10 mph. Anyone following behind would get a shock as it appears you’ve suddenly braked hard but no brake lights were shown. :open_mouth:

mucker85:
So does that mean the morons who turn over by driving too fast will not be caught out and drive EVEN faster?

+1.

another level of dumbing down, they’ll still roll the bloody things over but the statutory defence will be a completed defect of the anti roll system…then find another job and another and their history of carnage just vanishes…and no individual accident record on the licence or digicard means they are another body every bit as good in the eyes of a potential employer as Mayhem Man.

mucker85:
So does that mean the morons who turn over by driving too fast will not be caught out and drive EVEN faster?

I doubt it, and I doubt a driver would have the balls to drive a vehicle to the point of a roll over with out it going over, when you watch the demo videos, those vehicle are being pushed past there limits to show how well the system works.
Most of those that do roll a vehicle, have more than likely pushed there own limits rather than the limit of the truck!

its a bit un nerving at first , going round a roundabout at a speed you know is not going to cause a problem and suddenly the trailer decides to apply the brakes of its own accord to slow you down, this coupled to an automatic gearbox which wonders wtf is going on and then drops a gear to overcome the sudden resistance it has encountered, i ask you, what was wrong with drum brakes and leaf springs :wink:

works in pretty much the same way as EBS then

or is it the EBS system that you are talking about?

ABS and EBS are different systems

chaversdad:
its a bit un nerving at first , going round a roundabout at a speed you know is not going to cause a problem and suddenly the trailer decides to apply the brakes of its own accord to slow you down, this coupled to an automatic gearbox which wonders wtf is going on and then drops a gear to overcome the sudden resistance it has encountered, i ask you, what was wrong with drum brakes and leaf springs :wink:

To be honest, not having a clue how the container I have just picked up off the dock has been loaded, I think I prefer having an electronic system on the trailer which can react a lot faster than I can to keep the trailer in check.

shuttlespanker:
works in pretty much the same way as EBS then

or is it the EBS system that you are talking about?

ABS and EBS are different systems

No it’s actually called TRS, Trailer Rollover Stability System, no idea when it came out, but has only recently been coming on this years Denison skellies.

the way that EBS works is, it measures the air pressure in the suspension on both sides of the vehicle, when the pressure in one side is greater than the pressure in the other side by a fixed percentage (can’t remember the actual figure), it applies the brakes, this in turn helps prevent roll overs by slowing the vehicle down until the pressures are equalled out again

EBS is Electronic Braking System

ABS is Antilock Braking System, will stop a skid, but not a roll over

we got this on some new trailers a few year back and i was the 1st to take 1 out and i went round a sweeping left bend flat out as we all always do and i nearly tipped it over after over compensating as i didnt know what was happening. it just felt as if i was tipping as it was braking on me so i steered into it and ■■■■ me self as i re-stablised it.

Lol. I was talking to worksopboy the other week about this. I came out of a roundabout and gave it some power as its a steep incline and the bloody thing locked up one side, I crapped my crackers. LOL

I wouldn’t call them clever ! It sometimes slaps the brakes on hard mid way through a mild bend :open_mouth:
We had all new units and trailers at the same time and the first time it happened I was carrying a load of glass which really tested the retaining straps out, I did think it was the units ebs system but it is the trailer, I’ve even had it happen with an empty trailer on a gently curving motorway slip, it does test out peoples reactions behind you :imp: :imp:

chaversdad:
its a bit un nerving at first , going round a roundabout at a speed you know is not going to cause a problem and suddenly the trailer decides to apply the brakes of its own accord to slow you down, this coupled to an automatic gearbox which wonders wtf is going on and then drops a gear to overcome the sudden resistance it has encountered, i ask you, what was wrong with drum brakes and leaf springs :wink:

Nothing it was the idiot behind the wheel!

I’ve had this on a few trailers, 1st encountered it on a Maritime skelly, so it’s been around a few years.

Our trailers (at least some have it) as it’s kicked in on the sliproad from A57 onto the M6(s) where the Mercedes garage is, knew what it was, but certainly wasn’t going too quick - and was empty too :imp:

shuttlespanker:
the way that EBS works is, it measures the air pressure in the suspension on both sides of the vehicle, when the pressure in one side is greater than the pressure in the other side by a fixed percentage (can’t remember the actual figure), it applies the brakes, this in turn helps prevent roll overs by slowing the vehicle down until the pressures are equalled out again

EBS is Electronic Braking System

ABS is Antilock Braking System, will stop a skid, but not a roll over

I think the EBS system also works by keeping pressure in the brakes and using electrical signals to activate the brakes, so is much quicker and can alter where the brake pressure is - ie which wheel.

Sod roll overs, I want an anti-jacknifing system. Anyone who’s used a rental trailer will most likely have noticed how ■■■■ the brakes are on the trailer.
A few years ago (quite a few) I was pulling a fully loaded trailer, quite heavy, down a hill and it was icy / snowing, started the hill pretty slow, but trying to keep the speed down was very hard, touch the brakes, trailer brakes came on 1st, but a split second later the unit brakes came on more powerfull and the trailer started to shove the unit round, so off and on the brakes all the way down and still hit the bend at the bottom at nearly 30mph - luckily it gripped around it because there was sod all else I could do.

It doesn’t matter what gizmos you fit, there is no arguing with gravity. It might take more to tip it but once you roll too far you will end up on your side.