Classic cars

Dennisthemenace:

Tipper Tom:

goonerewill:
I use my 95 bug eye Granada 2.9 cossie as my everyday transport may be ugly to some but best car ford ever made

It very isn’t.

It barely counts as a Granada. It’s an abortion to look at.

There’s a reason they only sold 25 of the rubbish.

They took a perfectly good car, the granny, and ruined it.

In my eyes, the Granny finished in 1985. Maybe there’s a reason, why did they sell them as “Scorpio” in Europe…

Or the Ultima briefly in this country

Dennisthemenace:

Driveroneuk:

mds141:
I would like to see a system whereby you can tax the car online to use as and when needed, rather than 6 or 12 months as it is currently.

Could very well be coming to a computer near you soon. When paper tax discs are phased out (very soon) there will be a facility to pay road tax by monthly direct debit.

Also very soon (April I think)the free historic tax cut off date will be extended by one year to vehicles manufactured before 01.01.74.

I have 7 classics around ranging from 1960 (just out of mot exemption)to a 1994 daily driver.
Some have been off the road 20+ years and have various forms of old style log books, some not even in my name. What should I be doing about that at this stage, anything or nothing until they are restored?

I know of a very nice condition Sunbeam Alpine convertible in blue for sale located on the central south coast if anyone interested. £5k.

By ONE YEAR■■? That’s ridicolous.

If you think about it, that’s changing the criteria from the original 25 years to 40 years.

I think it’s about bringing the UK in line with most of Europe. Be careful what you wish for though … in many European countries, classic car status comes with a lot of restrictions on how you can use your vehicle. As someone who doesn’t really buy into the “classic car” scene, but does like running old characterful cars as daily transport, I’m wary of anything which will ultimately restrict my ability to use my car daily. I’d rather pay full road tax than have limitations placed on me as to what I can use my car for.

Sidevalve:

Dennisthemenace:

Driveroneuk:

mds141:
I would like to see a system whereby you can tax the car online to use as and when needed, rather than 6 or 12 months as it is currently.

Could very well be coming to a computer near you soon. When paper tax discs are phased out (very soon) there will be a facility to pay road tax by monthly direct debit.

Also very soon (April I think)the free historic tax cut off date will be extended by one year to vehicles manufactured before 01.01.74.

I have 7 classics around ranging from 1960 (just out of mot exemption)to a 1994 daily driver.
Some have been off the road 20+ years and have various forms of old style log books, some not even in my name. What should I be doing about that at this stage, anything or nothing until they are restored?

I know of a very nice condition Sunbeam Alpine convertible in blue for sale located on the central south coast if anyone interested. £5k.

By ONE YEAR■■? That’s ridicolous.

If you think about it, that’s changing the criteria from the original 25 years to 40 years.

I’m afraid, I don’t understand this…

Rhythm Thief:
I think it’s about bringing the UK in line with most of Europe. Be careful what you wish for though … in many European countries, classic car status comes with a lot of restrictions on how you can use your vehicle. As someone who doesn’t really buy into the “classic car” scene, but does like running old characterful cars as daily transport, I’m wary of anything which will ultimately restrict my ability to use my car daily. I’d rather pay full road tax than have limitations placed on me as to what I can use my car for.

I do not want to use mine for daily tansport, cos she is very rare and hard to find parts. I can see the people every day, do not care other cars in the car parks at all, hit the doors against them and ignore the damage caused by this…

Dennisthemenace:

Rhythm Thief:
I think it’s about bringing the UK in line with most of Europe. Be careful what you wish for though … in many European countries, classic car status comes with a lot of restrictions on how you can use your vehicle. As someone who doesn’t really buy into the “classic car” scene, but does like running old characterful cars as daily transport, I’m wary of anything which will ultimately restrict my ability to use my car daily. I’d rather pay full road tax than have limitations placed on me as to what I can use my car for.

I do not want to use mine for daily tansport, cos she is very rare and hard to find parts. I can see the people every day, do not care other cars in the car parks at all, hit the doors against them and ignore the damage caused by this…

Fair enough, and I can see where you’re coming from. I’ve always run the sorts of cars where another dent or two doesn’t really matter much. :laughing: Dents are like scratches, only with a better story.
Here’s one of the old sheds I ran as daily transport a few years back … you may notice there are no front doors, and no windscreen.

It was never going to win any concours prizes, or ever get another MOT, but it was great fun to drive up the M50 every morning to work while it lasted. :laughing:

Rhythm Thief:

Dennisthemenace:

Rhythm Thief:
I think it’s about bringing the UK in line with most of Europe. Be careful what you wish for though … in many European countries, classic car status comes with a lot of restrictions on how you can use your vehicle. As someone who doesn’t really buy into the “classic car” scene, but does like running old characterful cars as daily transport, I’m wary of anything which will ultimately restrict my ability to use my car daily. I’d rather pay full road tax than have limitations placed on me as to what I can use my car for.

I do not want to use mine for daily tansport, cos she is very rare and hard to find parts. I can see the people every day, do not care other cars in the car parks at all, hit the doors against them and ignore the damage caused by this…

Fair enough, and I can see where you’re coming from. I’ve always run the sorts of cars where another dent or two doesn’t really matter much. :laughing: Dents are like scratches, only with a better story.
Here’s one of the old sheds I ran as daily transport a few years back … you may notice there are no front doors, and no windscreen.

It was never going to win any concours prizes, or ever get another MOT, but it was great fun to drive up the M50 every morning to work while it lasted. :laughing:

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This is my old girl. A 1948 Morris 10, I had just won best in show at Ripon last year.

Nice!
I think I may have an original owner’s handbook for a Morris 10 … no idea where that came from or why I’ve got it.

Carlc:
This is my old girl. A 1948 Morris 10, I had just won best in show at Ripon last year.

Nice old car, and a good show the one at Ripon. Usually the end of July time. Ripon Racecourse.

Stanley Knife:
This Vauxhall Victor is absolutely gorgeous and at 39 years old it’s a credit to its previous owners,
but there is one glaring problem with it? . . and it’s not the road tax.

Stan

Is it because it all sounds too good to be true?

Does sound a bit too good to be true, but there are gems like this hiding away.

The problem with it is that it’s a museum piece. The car is bought as an original with tiny mileage. Every time you take it out you’re reducing the very point of buying it in the first place. In order to keep, or enhance, it’s value you’ve got to keep the mileage down. Therefore you couldn’t even drive it to shows and rallies, you’d have to take it on a trailer - what’s the point in having a car you can’t drive?

The other point is the lack of underseal. If you don’t underseal it you have to clean off all the road dirt from underneath the car everytime you do use it or the tin worm will be in in no time. If you do underseal it you are defeating the originality which attracts its price.

A 1970 Ford ■■■■■■ with just 1000 miles on the clock went for £10k at auction last year. It’s sat in isolated seclusion ever since - what’s the point?

Stan

Stanley Knife:
The problem with it is that it’s a museum piece. The car is bought as an original with tiny mileage. Every time you take it out you’re reducing the very point of buying it in the first place. In order to keep, or enhance, it’s value you’ve got to keep the mileage down. Therefore you couldn’t even drive it to shows and rallies, you’d have to take it on a trailer - what’s the point in having a car you can’t drive?

Indeed, there is no point in having a car you can’t drive. It becomes a bloody expensive ornament!

The only case I can think of where the reverse is true, is Irv Gordon’s 3 million mile Volvo. I’d argue, if anything, adding more miles to it only enhances the value!

macplaxton:

Stanley Knife:
The problem with it is that it’s a museum piece. The car is bought as an original with tiny mileage. Every time you take it out you’re reducing the very point of buying it in the first place. In order to keep, or enhance, it’s value you’ve got to keep the mileage down. Therefore you couldn’t even drive it to shows and rallies, you’d have to take it on a trailer - what’s the point in having a car you can’t drive?

Indeed, there is no point in having a car you can’t drive. It becomes a bloody expensive ornament!

The only case I can think of where the reverse is true, is Irv Gordon’s 3 million mile Volvo. I’d argue, if anything, adding more miles to it only enhances the value!

I had a Citroen BX 1.7TD Estate with over 1 million miles on it, got it off my boss when I worked for a taxi firm, it was the company car and any private hire driver could use it if theirs broke down or was in for MOT etc, so it was used A LOT.

It was written off by a drunk driver in a stolen car, until then the only issues I had were the little clip on the back of the throttle pedal broke (got brittle) and the fuel cut off solenoid broke where the wire screws on whilst going over a speed bump in Asda :imp:
I did normal maintenance and had to do the spheres, but the history on the car was HUGE, receipts for every job ever done on it.

When it was written off, I sold it to an asian guy and he drove it away with all the offside front smashed in, saw it months later in Rochdale sorta badly repaired, it’s possible it’s still going :open_mouth:

With stars in my eyes I bought an immaculate MGB GT a while back for a shed load of hard-earned. A real head turner in the pub carpark, but on the road ? NO WAY. A squashed tractor is how herself described it, so I chopped it in for a series 1 V12 Daimler long wheelbase which would pass anything except a petrol pump. How to get skint in 1000 miles. The love of my life now is a 1965 Massey Ferguson 135 and 12 acres of grass to cut.
No more so-called classics for me - not on these roads anyway. Jim

jmc jnr:
With stars in my eyes I bought an immaculate MGB GT a while back for a shed load of hard-earned. A real head turner in the pub carpark, but on the road ? NO WAY. A squashed tractor is how herself described it, so I chopped it in for a series 1 V12 Daimler long wheelbase which would pass anything except a petrol pump. How to get skint in 1000 miles. The love of my life now is a 1965 Massey Ferguson 135 and 12 acres of grass to cut.
No more so-called classics for me - not on these roads anyway. Jim

mmmmm-series1 xj12/daimler nice!! my dad (massive jaguar fan-he’s got an xjr currently)bought a series1 daimler in the late seventies.it was the same price as a series1 E- type roadster that he was tempted by!!! you couldnt give the E types away at the time!!! but due to needing four seats he went for the daimler :open_mouth:

With websites like MID you can check to see if, ahem, “your” car is still on the road.

(But only if you have reason to know that information Oshifer :laughing: :wink: )

Disappointingly, most of mine aren’t. I kind of still hoped that my first car, a mark 2 Fiesta, would somehow still be going.

bazza123:
With websites like MID you can check to see if, ahem, “your” car is still on the road.

(But only if you have reason to know that information Oshifer :laughing: :wink: )

Disappointingly, most of mine aren’t. I kind of still hoped that my first car, a mark 2 Fiesta, would somehow still be going.

Don’t do it, checking on MID whether your first 50cc motorcycle, or the Fiat 131 who’s backseat you lost your proper virginity on, is still on the road is torture.

The Fiat 131 is probably someone’s fridge now but my Yamaha FSIE is still out there . . . somewhere.

I looked up an old gixer I once owned the other day…my first “thou”.

and yes…she`s still out there,somewhere :sunglasses:

Chas I bet you wish you still had your Fizzy. I bought mine from the bike shop in the middle of Baldock and fetched it home on the firm’s Mini pick-up and loved the thing. (not the pick-up that was ghastly). I had a Standard 10 that failed its MOT and the bike was FASTER. I also at the time had a Mk V Jag 1949 that I was restoring and sold to a teacher from Coulsdon. Can’t see the screen for tears now. Jim