Can someone be so good as to tell me what are the maximum container size and total quantity that can be carried to be exempt from the ADR rules for class 3 (inflammable liquids). Tried to find out but to me the regs are a minefield. Thanks
For what purpose ie private or work related
Do u have a UN number as it differs depending on packing groups.
It was a job I quoted on for my wee wheelbarrow so it is for hire & reward, no UN number was mentioned just 137kg class 3, from one end of country to the other so missed out on a decent paying job
my ADR cert expired yonks ago, sods law innit ? when I had it I hardly ever used but but when you don’t have one the opportunities present themselves …
Another thing I wondered about is whether my GiT would cover ADR goods so maybe I couldn’t have done it anyway.
It’s not you GIT you should be concerned with, it is your vehicle insurer as it is they who have to pick up the bill for the clean up if involved in an accident. Most hire & reward van policies exclude the carriage of dangerous goods even if not in scope of ADR.
I meant to say H&R instead of GiT but useless internet here went down not long afterwards and before I could edit the post.
raymundo:
Can someone be so good as to tell me what are the maximum container size and total quantity that can be carried to be exempt from the ADR rules for class 3 (inflammable liquids). Tried to find out but to me the regs are a minefield. Thanks
Hi raymundo,
The way in which you’ve asked that question goes back to pre-2004.
Since then, the method of calculating whether a load is in-scope of ADR has changed considerably.
As a (very) rough guide… what you remember as “package size” is now known as “Limited Quantity” (LQ) and the limits for this are now much smaller than back then.
Nowadays, the maximum LQ size for a liquid is usually 5L, but it does vary according to the individual UN number and Packing Group (PG.)
Some substances are not allowed to be carried as LQs.
LQs can best be thought of as the kinds and sizes of little packages of dangerous goods that can be bought over the counter in a retail shop.
If the proposed load was not packaged as LQs, then the ‘freeby’ allowance for UN Class 3 substances usually depends on the PG, but it can depend on if the substance is already automatically placed in an ADR Transport Category.
Again (very) roughly, an indication of the ADR ‘freeby’ limits for UN Class 3…
Class 3 PGI = 20L freeby
Class 3 PGII = 333L freeby
Class 3 PGIII = 1,000L freeby
Sorry, but the above is only a very rough guideline.
If you’re on a domestic UK journey and carrying up to and including the ‘freeby’ limit of UN Class 3 substances, then all you need is one ADR compliant 2kg dry powder fire extinguisher and to secure the goods correctly on your vehicle, because nothing else in ADR applies.
Without the UN number and PG as mentioned by madmackem, nobody can give you an accurate answer to your question.
GBPub has mentioned your insurer, but I’ll mention also that your insurer might ask you who your DGSA is, because a van O/D client of mine had that exact question asked of him by his insurer. Both the insurer and the consignor wanted proof that he had a DGSA, because he’s almost always in-scope of ADR every day.
If you carry dangerous goods and stay out of scope of ADR by carrying LQs or remaining below the threshold limits or seldom/rarely carrying an in-scope load, then you don’t officially need a DGSA.
You would however need some proper advice on how to calculate whether and how a load is or isn’t in scope and a bit of updated ADR awareness training which is documented, although you wouldn’t need a full ADR course and qualification if it’s your intention to never be in scope.
Thanks Dave and all for the advice. Think I will try to stay away from any goods in future that may cause any confusion. I would be prepared to do the full ADR course again if the work volume would warrant it but that’s doubtful so I’ll plod on with other stuff. Cheers