Claiming a cat D with a cat C+E without taking test

The-Snowman:

alamcculloch:
I am allowed to carry the most precious of things.AKA other peoples children :smiley: :smiley:

Where’s my sick bag? :grimacing:
I drove buses and others peoples children were vastly outnumbered by junkies, jakies, alckies and general scum.
Course not all the drivers were like that, some were ok

We must have worked for the same company… :grimacing:

Coolrider:

Rowley010:
Complete and utter ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– .

For a start a D isn’t a lower standard. It’s something different.

You most definitely do need to take another theory test, another practical, and another cpc if you want to drive buses. You even need to take a new medical if you didn’t tick category D on your form when you applied for C.

Maybe this person meant, like what someone has already said, if you get a cat D then because you’ve got C+E then it automatically gives you D+E without having to take an extra test? If that’s not what he mean, then as stated, utter tosh!

Actually if you drive buses and trucks you only need one lot of 35hrs dcpc to cover both categories. Please feel free to check on this before you reply.
I know for a fact I’m right :smiley:

You still need your initial cpc for that category. Then ongoing every 5 years yes you only need one lot.

And if that’s not the case then I’ve been told otherwise. ROG? you normally clear this kind of thing up…

Coolrider:

Rowley010:
Complete and utter ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– .

For a start a D isn’t a lower standard. It’s something different.

You most definitely do need to take another theory test, another practical, and another cpc if you want to drive buses. You even need to take a new medical if you didn’t tick category D on your form when you applied for C.

Maybe this person meant, like what someone has already said, if you get a cat D then because you’ve got C+E then it automatically gives you D+E without having to take an extra test? If that’s not what he mean, then as stated, utter tosh!

Actually if you drive buses and trucks you only need one lot of 35hrs dcpc to cover both categories. Please feel free to check on this before you reply.
I know for a fact I’m right :smiley:

Thats wrong, I have been driving coaches for 11 years and did my class 2 last year and class 1 in January and had to do my CPC again, even though I had a valid CPC card, was told by various sources (believe I checked cause I was’nt happy) becuase the LGV entitlemnent was’nt on my CPC card I had to do it again (intial CPC) I argued that the 35 hours I did were the same as for LGV but as the category wasn’t on my license I had to do it again!!

Yep. Like I said, you have to do the initial one for each category but then the ongoing one after that will count for both.

The reason you can’t just do use the LGV one for PCV is because (and I’ve seen a dvsa YouTube video on this) the PCV one does have things that are specific to that vehicle. So in the same way for LGV we have to show we can secure a load which would be pointless for bus drivers, in the bus driver in total cpc they have to do things like checking seats, seat belts, making sure the emergency exit is functional and things like this, that would be useless to truck drivers.

A lot of it does cross over like the bit about checking the vehicle when coming back from Europe, what to do in an emergency, daily vehicle checks. But because there are some more specific things this is why you still have to do the initial cpc regardless of what you’ve got already. Makes sense I guess.

MancunianAndy:

Coolrider:

Rowley010:
Complete and utter ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– .

For a start a D isn’t a lower standard. It’s something different.

You most definitely do need to take another theory test, another practical, and another cpc if you want to drive buses. You even need to take a new medical if you didn’t tick category D on your form when you applied for C.

Maybe this person meant, like what someone has already said, if you get a cat D then because you’ve got C+E then it automatically gives you D+E without having to take an extra test? If that’s not what he mean, then as stated, utter tosh!

Actually if you drive buses and trucks you only need one lot of 35hrs dcpc to cover both categories. Please feel free to check on this before you reply.
I know for a fact I’m right :smiley:

Thats wrong, I have been driving coaches for 11 years and did my class 2 last year and class 1 in January and had to do my CPC again, even though I had a valid CPC card, was told by various sources (believe I checked cause I was’nt happy) becuase the LGV entitlemnent was’nt on my CPC card I had to do it again (intial CPC) I argued that the 35 hours I did were the same as for LGV but as the category wasn’t on my license I had to do it again!!

You mean there’s no logic or sense with the CPC? :open_mouth:
Who’d have thought it! :laughing:

Sounds like a right balls up that the CPC counts for the other, but only if it’s already on your licence…
You couldn’t make this crap up! :unamused:

Rowley010:
You still need your initial cpc for that category. Then ongoing every 5 years yes you only need one lot.

And if that’s not the case then I’ve been told otherwise. ROG? you normally clear this kind of thing up…

This isn’t as straight forward as it could be. In the absence of a reply from ROG here’s my reply.

If you have a D1 (16 seat) with a 101 restriction (not for hire or reward) which anyone who passed their car test prior to January 1997 should have, you can email DVSA and have acquired rights for cat D activated.

When they do this a new DQC will be sent out automatically with CPC for all D categories as well as the existing C. I have just done this.

Then go take the test for D and you can avoid the initial CPC for D and any CPC attended will count for C & D.

You could also get a cushy little job driving a 16 seater on some kind of community service permit 19 type work and you’ll have the CPC required. Having the 101 restriction allows you to do this kind of work. I’ve met quite a few people on these jobs and it seems to pay well.

If you don’t get acquired rights activated they will gladly let you do initial CPC for cat D instead.

That means hundreds of thousands of C1, C or CE licence holders with a current DQC showing only C categories can get D added. It’d cost DVSA a little fortune to send out new cards :smiley:

Damm there I was phone in hand and then I realised they haven’t sent my C+E licence back yet :unamused: . mind at least I would have a licence

If I’d have known all this I’d have claimed full C+E at 18yrs while riding my FS1-E

peirre:

axletramp:
A ā€œbendy busā€ is still only a D, not a D+E

I did wonder why Alex Jones on BBC1’s one show last week said she could drive a bendy bus after passing her coach licence

She could drive my Bendy Bus, anytime [emoji6]

peirre:
If I’d have known all this I’d have claimed full C+E at 18yrs while riding my FS1-E

:smiley:

I knew I shouldn’t have gone with an AP50.

OK I confess!
Hear is where I heard it from; the admin of this site busandcoachforum.net/viewtop … 1&t=244877
Yes it has my name stamped all over it as well

So please fell free to join up and post your comments as it looks like no one ells will

I have a C and a E so it’s only makes sense I should get free D…erm I should think of a better way to word that :smiley:

peirre:

axletramp:
A ā€œbendy busā€ is still only a D, not a D+E

I did wonder why Alex Jones on BBC1’s one show last week said she could drive a bendy bus after passing her coach licence

I wouldn’t share a tandem with that dizzy bint. Even if she was on the back. Imagine her driving a bendy bus. Utter carnage

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