Saaamon:
‘…All of this H&S and all these “systems” is going to bring this country to its [zb] knees one day…’
‘…[T]hese “systems”…’ originate from directives that are often inappropriate for our once World beating way of doing things in the UK, but they are now sanctioned, passed and inflicted by courtesy of the not very cheap, European Union.
UK politicians rarely get to debate such domestic niff-naff - which is bizarre since they are the nuts & bolts that affect us all each day - because it is outside of their remit - and here we are divided over it…!
The UK mainstream political parties, despite being coy on your doorstep, fully endorse the EU and the methodology that, as stated, is seemingly ‘…bring[ing] this country to its [zb] knees…’
You gotta laugh at how we are chizzed-off with what we’ve done to ourselves, eh
weve been ledlike lambs to the slaughterhouse of the united states of europe
switchlogic:
‘…Apologies I switched off after the first unintelligible paragraph of waffle … As you were…’
It’s been indicated that Wikipedia is too basic - so the default is seemingly to sarcastically duck-away when getting battered in the ring.
AlexWignall:
‘…That’s it Switch! Lead with your left and keep jabbing… We are exporting the H&S culture to Europe…’
The exportation of H&S from the UK is an interesting point - which even a sarcastic, punch-drunkard might concede?
Few defend nor praise the UK’s Health & Safety Executive (HSE), who are a Government sponsored agency through HM Department for Work and Pensions - so why don’t MP’s or the electorate do anything positive about their crazed antics?
So keeping it simple, the HSE appears to be a self-licking lollipop through busying themselves by obediently serving their undemocratically empowered master’s Directives which they have initially contrived and exported to the EU. They then bully us into blindly adhering to them whilst other countries simply shrug them off
I wasn’t that far off my first time round, but where does it leave the quality of the UK’s electorate and our working lives vis-a-vis flippin’ wheel nuts?
Well Happy Keith since you’ve called me a Neanderthal in the past I wouldn’t want to disappoint you. Plus the last time I disagreed with you on the forum you bombarded me with PM’s and I don’t have time for that now. You try so hard to sound intelligent it makes your posts unintelligible and hard to read.
Wagon is not allowed to leave the yard where i work unless you`ve used the torque wrench on all wheels and signed your timesheet to say its been done before you left, covers both the operator and the driver should anything happen.
Our trucks have all been fitted with safetytrims on the wheels. These nifty trims indicate and lock a loose wheel nut. When I do my walk-round the only thing I have to look out for is whether or not a yellow indicator tab has appeared in the window on the trim. The good thing is that if a wheel nut works its way loose during driving, the Safetytrims will catch it, indicate and lock it in place so it cannot back off completely. They work really well…
Apparently the company that supply them have now decided to buy all the yellow Checkpoint indicators from operators that want to change to their Safetytrims. Ballsy!!!
Philip
Luckings Transport
Our trucks have all been fitted with safetytrims on the wheels. These nifty trims indicate and lock a loose wheel nut. When I do my walk-round the only thing I have to look out for is whether or not a yellow indicator tab has appeared in the window on the trim. The good thing is that if a wheel nut works its way loose during driving, the Safetytrims will catch it, indicate and lock it in place so it cannot back off completely. They work really well…
Apparently the company that supply them have now decided to buy all the yellow Checkpoint indicators from operators that want to change to their Safetytrims.
Philip
Luckings Transport
Our firm used to use the yellow pointers, but as a lot of our work is on farms, they don’t stay put for long on the front axle. We now use a device similar to this…
… which I personally don’t have much confidence in. They’re not popular with the ATS lads either, as they make it difficult to put the socket on to do a torque check; PITA to re-fit after a tyre change too. Driver’s daily visual check is mandatory and has to be recorded; ATS are in every other week to do a tightening check with the torque wrench, and we also have a torque wrench in the office for the drivers to use, though since none of them bother to unwind it after use I wouldn’t put too much faith in its accuracy.
Agree with comments about the “its not my job” mentality, but managers and employers have only themselves to blame for allowing H&S to be a substitute for common sense. Our mill manager has just re-inforced the hard hat rule at Carmarthen; they must now be worn even when walking to the mill to the car park via a designated pedestrian route. I wouldn’t mind this so much (we use bump caps which are far more comfortable than the plastic lids) if it weren’t for the fact that every other mill I go to in our company only insists on protective headgear where the working conditions demand it, i.e. in the mill itself and on the loading gantries.
Same bloke has been putting the mockers on a wash-down for our lorries to use; we don’t even have a bucket and brush to wash dead flies off our windscreens, and although we can use a hosepipe to sluice down our floor-mats (essential after you’ve been on a farm!) its use is grudgingly given. Yet he’s positively ■■■■ about Elf and Safety in the mill. Total arse.
