Subject: Obtaining a DQC with Acquired Rights JAUPT:0947
Laurie,
Since the acquired rights deadline has passed DVSA has received requests from members of the public, who wish to return to vocational driving, asking how they can obtain a DQC. DVSA has considered these requests in the context of the government’s desire to support driver recruitment and reduce the potential burden to the industry and has decided that they will now allow drivers with a full licence to gain their first DQC via either periodic training or completion of modules two and four. For further information on modules two and four please visit: gov.uk
This provision will apply to a driver’s first DQC only - any subsequent renewal will require periodic training to be completed. DVSA envisages this will have very limited impact on approved trainers and anticipate as more drivers enter the industry the demand for Driver CPC periodic training will ultimately be increased.
So if, in a moment of weakness, I did decide to start using my licence again I wouldn’t have to do the full 35 hours? Nice. What does module 2 and 4 entail?
This particular change has been in place for a couple of months now. However the DVSA systems aren’t yet able to accept a booking for Module 2 via the online system for a driver who has acquired rights - so phone calls have to be made and it is currently taking upwards of 30 days to get a booking for Module 2 and then another 2 to 4 weeks for Module 4.
So far everyone I have spoken to has taken the 35 hours in a classroom route rather than the Mod 2 and Mod 4 and we still have virtually full courses Monday to Friday twice a month with acquired rights drivers getting their first DQC.
I think it may be the idea that Mod 2 and 4 can be failed whereas periodic training can’t.
Driver-Once-More:
After my time Niel, but I always took that to mean Theory and practicle
MOD 2 = LGV or PCV theory test.
MOD 4 = Practical demonstration.
Mod 2 is computer based and from what I’ve read consists of 50 multiple choice questions such as
Q. You need a 45 minute break after how much driving time.
A1. 2 hours.
A2. 3 days.
A3. 4½ hours.
A4. 1 year.
Q. At a junction a car pulls out in front of you, should you:
A1. Blow your horn and flash your lights.
A2. Slow down to leave a safe stopping distance between you and the car.
A3. Ignore the oncoming traffic and overtake the car blowing your horn.
By the way I’m not joking about this, as far as I can make out some of the multiple choice answers really are that stupid
Mod 4 is the practical demonstration where you have to show the examiner that you know where things on the vehicle are such as the O-licence or trailer brake and what the weights on the plate mean ec’t.
tachograph:
Mod 2 is computer based and from what I’ve read consists of 50 multiple choice questions such as
Q. You need a 45 minute break after how much driving time.
A1. 2 hours.
A2. 3 days.
A3. 4½ hours.
A4. 1 year.
Q. At a junction a car pulls out in front of you, should you:
A1. Blow your horn and flash your lights.
A2. Slow down to leave a safe stopping distance between you and the car.
A3. Ignore the oncoming traffic and overtake the car blowing your horn.
By the way I’m not joking about this, as far as I can make out some of the multiple choice answers really are that stupid
It’s pretty much like that, except the question starts with a little story (they’re always about lorry drivers) and then the questions are about the events of the story. I didn’t do any specific revision for my one, I just revised for the normal theory test and I did ok.
Coffeeholic:
So if, in a moment of weakness, I did decide to start using my licence again I wouldn’t have to do the full 35 hours? Nice. What does module 2 and 4 entail?
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Many experienced drivers will not need training for this and the info in that video will be enough so that means that they could get hold of a LGV C1 vehicle that is ok for the DVSA specifications and do the whole thing themselves
Module 2 theory is a test with a few different picture scenarios and there are a few Qs on each pic with multiple choice answers - again experienced drivers should have no issues doing this without any prior training
These two are tests which can be failed whereas the periodic is 35 hours of attendance so its up to the individual how they proceed
I have been informed the current first time pass rate for Mod 2 is below 50%. I have no evidence of this though but my source is usually correct. If this is the case then either people taking the test are extremely nervous or the test is harder than suggested here.
Here is an actual case study and seven questions about it.
You are driving an articulated tanker carrying milk and the tank is full. Before you had this job you used to be a petrol tanker driver. As the driver of a tanker you know there are certain situations in which you must take special care. Your company is keen to save on running costs.
QUESTION 1
What might your company have told you about use of the rev counter?
Select the BEST option below.
A. Keep it in the red band
B. Keep it in the green band
C. Keep it in the amber band
D. Keep it in the blue band
QUESTION 2
Why must you be especially careful on tight bends and roundabouts?
Select the BEST option below.
A. Tanker suspension is very soft
B. You might turn the tanker over if travelling too fast
C. The tanker does not have PAS
D. The tanker has ABS
QUESTION 3
When going around roundabouts, you notice that you can feel the milk moving around inside the tank. You did not notice this so much when driving the petrol tankers. Why might this be?
Select TWO of the options below.
A. The milk tanker has baffle plates
B. The petrol tankers had baffle plates
C. The milk tanker does not have baffle plates
D. The petrol tankers had smaller tanks
QUESTION 4
Each time you lift off of the accelerator when driving, you notice the rev counter moves to the blue band. What does this mean?
Select the BEST option below.
A. There is a fault in the transmission
B. The secondary brake is automatically being applied
C. Engine braking is taking place
D. Retarder braking is taking place
QUESTION 5
Your vehicle is fitted with a speed limiter. What would this limit the maximum speed of your vehicle to?
Select the BEST option below.
A. 50mph
B. 56mph
C. 60mph
D. 70mph
QUESTION 6
Where would you expect to find information about the speed limiter fitted to your vehicle?
Select the BEST option below.
A. On a plate in the vehicle cab
B. On a plate on the trailer headboard
C. In the documentation for the journey
D. On the vehicle registration document
QUESTION 7
What would you use the fifth wheel for?
Select the BEST option below.
A. To connect the tractive unit to the semi-trailer
B. To help position the landing legs
C. To steer when driving on the right hand side of the road on continental trips
D. To open the tank valves when emptying the tank
