Hoping for a bit of help. My load for tomorrow is generators.
There is one unlabelled IBC with what smells like engine oil in it. About 1/2 full.
There is one IBC marked up as being filled with gas oil/diesel and smells like it. The gauge on top reads 1/2 full. Marked capacity is 950 litres.
My gut feeling is that I can’t carry that load.
Can anyone tell me what I need in order to carry it?
Engine oil is low hazard and the red diesel in the ibc is under the threshold , I may be wrong my adr ran out 10 years ago but I think you will be able to carry it
largebloke1969:
Engine oil is low hazard and the red diesel in the ibc is under the threshold , I may be wrong my adr ran out 10 years ago but I think you will be able to carry it
I think I still need to receive and have a record of ADR Awareness training. (Which I don’t have).
I’ve got the 2kg dry powder fire extinguisher.
The IBC with diesel in is properly designed and marked up, so it’s flagrantly obvious what I’m carrying.
slowlane:
largebloke1969:
Engine oil is low hazard and the red diesel in the ibc is under the threshold , I may be wrong my adr ran out 10 years ago but I think you will be able to carry itI think I still need to receive and have a record of ADR Awareness training. (Which I don’t have).
I’ve got the 2kg dry powder fire extinguisher.
The IBC with diesel in is properly designed and marked up, so it’s flagrantly obvious what I’m carrying.
Your ok carrying it, an IBC is classed as a package and the regs state
Diesel and gas oil
Diesel and gas oil (UN 1202) are in scope up to flash point 100 deg C. Diesel/fuel oil is in TC 3, so up to 1000 litres may be carried in packages without application of much of the regulations (small load exemption).
Authorisation No 1 PDF link to external website allows certain bowsers (carrying UN 1202 diesel /gas oil only) to be treated as if they are IBCs. The main conditions are
The bowser was made before 10th May 2004
The tank must not be “permanently fixed to a motor vehicle or trailer”.
Maximum capacity 3000 litres
Designed for mechanical handling
It shall remain “safe and suitable”The significance of this is that the bowser can be treated as a package and labelled accordingly, and that if it does not carry more than 1000 litres the small load exemptions apply.
There are many types of bowser which are certified as IBCs, and they may look like “tanks” so care needs to be taken in deciding what rules apply. If the bowser is a properly certified IBC it can be used to carry kerosene (inc jet fuel) and be treated as package.
In all other respects carriers of diesel are now subject to the standard ADR and CDG Regulations requirements.
Crack on driver ,I carry such quantities of those often and I did ask DD too .
slowlane:
Hoping for a bit of help. My load for tomorrow is generators.
The generators are fine as long as there are no leaks.
slowlane:
There is one unlabelled IBC with what smells like engine oil in it. About 1/2 full.
If your sense of smell is correct, this IBC can be ignored.
slowlane:
There is one IBC marked up as being filled with gas oil/diesel and smells like it. The gauge on top reads 1/2 full. Marked capacity is 950 litres.
You can carry 1,000 litre of diesel in an IBC without an ADR licence.
slowlane:
My gut feeling is that I can’t carry that load.
Caution is a good thing, but from the info you’ve given, there’s no problem.
slowlane:
Can anyone tell me what I need in order to carry it?
Hopefully answered above. 
slowlane:
largebloke1969:
Engine oil is low hazard and the red diesel in the ibc is under the threshold , I may be wrong my adr ran out 10 years ago but I think you will be able to carry itlargebloke1969 is correct, the rules for this haven’t really changed since he did his ADR.
slowlane:
I think I still need to receive and have a record of ADR Awareness training. (Which I don’t have).You’re correct with this.
slowlane:
I’ve got the 2kg dry powder fire extinguisher.The 2kg extinguisher is a requirement, but it must be ADR compliant.
slowlane:
The IBC with diesel in is properly designed and marked up, so it’s flagrantly obvious what I’m carrying.
Correctly marked means:
A UN Class 3 label + Fish and Tree Mark + “UN 1202” placed near each other, and duplicated on two opposite sides.
The above applies equally to either red or white diesel fuel carried in an IBC.
Thank you everyone.
Situation resolved - it’s not my load any more. Shame really as it would have been a good run… much better than the one I’m doing instead!!! Still, I wasn’t happy to wing it when it seemed I needed the awareness training (thanks for the confirmation, Dave).
I think the fire extinguisher meets the criteria for Small Load Exemption. It’s a 2kg dry powder ABC, tested and in date, situated in my cab.
slowlane:
Thank you everyone.Situation resolved - it’s not my load any more. Shame really as it would have been a good run… much better than the one I’m doing instead!!! Still, I wasn’t happy to wing it when it seemed I needed the awareness training (thanks for the confirmation, Dave).
Hi slowlane,
It’s no problem to confirm that mate, and I’ll even offer you (or your boss) an idea… If you take day #1 of an ADR course, but ONLY for DCPC purposes (no exam) that would do nicely as proof of ADR awareness training and sort 7hrs of your 35hr requirement all in one go.
slowlane:
I think the fire extinguisher meets the criteria for Small Load Exemption. It’s a 2kg dry powder ABC, tested and in date, situated in my cab.
That sounds good mate, but please don’t forget that the extinguisher also needs a seal to verify that it hasn’t been used.
A missing fire extinguisher seal is one of the commonest reasons for a prohibition.